Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:50957) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S51ee-0003uG-RJ; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:10:49 -0800 Received: by ghbf14 with SMTP id f14sf5957853ghb.16 for ; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCMLaiI6rCBC1-tn6BBoELnZijA@googlegroups.com designates 10.52.94.100 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.52.94.100; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCMLaiI6rCBC1-tn6BBoELnZijA@googlegroups.com designates 10.52.94.100 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lojban-beginners+bncCMLaiI6rCBC1-tn6BBoELnZijA@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass header.i=lojban-beginners+bncCMLaiI6rCBC1-tn6BBoELnZijA@googlegroups.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.52.94.100]) by 10.52.94.100 with SMTP id db4mr15539964vdb.10.1331068238459 (num_hops = 1); Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:10:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=E074oP2PcvYhWcTnvN/y/jM3YyZ2p/6dDkwawyIaQnQ=; b=BLvEQOUyIuAklUnGPUDLWu8bVU/dV80FeQPH+tmSMD1n8dTHd0FyXBMBvolMdOtGGn V7cr0dmPisNlfiqFTHwRdUVOetaUp8QZZLVt4qdl0Jdoz6TzTOMYB/0eDkyPEELc17RY nlhu/lXBCZlzA+DWAWU1dVMaSQF007WlAUgaw= Received: by 10.52.94.100 with SMTP id db4mr4560939vdb.10.1331068213782; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:10:13 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.209.196 with SMTP id gh4ls1338314vcb.1.gmail; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:10:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.94.100 with SMTP id db4mr4560924vdb.10.1331068212531; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by y10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:10:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 13:10:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <32859217.3726.1330958158411.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbbed8> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/535.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/17.0.963.65 Safari/535.11,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <32c485da-8071-4ae1-abb1-be943b153bbe@y10g2000vbn.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "me too" in Lojban From: ianek To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: janek37@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of janek37@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=janek37@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 3627 On 6 Mar, 20:26, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Janek wrote: > > On 6 March 2012 02:38, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:35 AM, gleki > > wrote: > > > >> - It pleases me > > >> - Me too > > > >> How to express the reply compactly in Lojban ? > > > > Depending on what is being "me too"ed, you can use ji'a: > > > > abu: mi nelci ti > > > by: ji'a go'i > > > {go'ira'o}, not {go'i} > > No. It's just go'i. > > The expansion on the above is not > > abu: mi nelci ti > by: ji'a do nelci ti > > It is > > abu: mi nelci ti > by: ji'a mi nelci ti > > ra'o is needed to distinguish between > > A: mi lumci le mi karce > B: mi go'i > > A: I wash my car. > B: I wash A=92s car. > > and > > A: mi lumci le mi karce > B: mi go'i ra'o > > A: I wash my car. > B: I wash B=92s car. > > CLL 7.6 CLL 20 Yes. But the {mi} in {le mi karce} isn't more special than {mi} in {mi nelci ti}. You can say abu: mi nelci ti by: ji'a mi go'i to parallel the CLL example. The example in CLL 20 also uses {mi go'i}. > > > > >> or > > > >> - Good night ! > > >> - [Good night to] you too ! > > > > abu: ko lifri lonu xamgu nicte > > > by: ji'a go'i > > > I'm not sure, but I think this also requires {ra'o} > > No. It doesn't. Why so sure? I haven't seen anything on how {go'i}/{go'i ra'o} interacts with {ko}. > > > > > > > > > > > > > mu'o mi'e ianek > > > >> - di'ai melbi nicte > > >> - ??? > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > >> "Lojban Beginners" group. > > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > > >>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/O-eXmyDbHAwJ. > > >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.c= om. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > > > -- > > > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > > > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr= oups > > > "Lojban Beginners" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.co= m. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps > > "Lojban Beginners" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.