Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:48417) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S3Yic-0007O9-PK; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:04:50 -0800 Received: by wgbdt10 with SMTP id dt10sf276670wgb.16 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:04:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhC9z8T6BBoEYeJ4_w@googlegroups.com designates 10.204.128.77 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.204.128.77; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhC9z8T6BBoEYeJ4_w@googlegroups.com designates 10.204.128.77 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhC9z8T6BBoEYeJ4_w@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass header.i=lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhC9z8T6BBoEYeJ4_w@googlegroups.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.204.128.77]) by 10.204.128.77 with SMTP id j13mr1398237bks.25.1330718679022 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:04:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jzYZ+nn8GhWJj/0+M5w6exCQZ3lcuoMQlQFlFJTW2WM=; b=NMm41p86W4lmfZuGOJR4zHWrwit0I0V1+rb9aHcV5HGcyWcd2kHdg0TkbRQ7lTootC C8yS2WLm9RYqGDIJvqYYiuvpkZ8nbUvunhd8yeTDmMCJivcJrxjxD7zLOdezlnHEzK94 SQVaS0ebDJpFuC47QeQ68kGmJWMzD0zISOEQI= Received: by 10.204.128.77 with SMTP id j13mr413182bks.25.1330718653734; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:04:13 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.205.113.145 with SMTP id ew17ls4378668bkc.8.gmail; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.154.143 with SMTP id o15mr929453bkw.4.1330718652062; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.154.143 with SMTP id o15mr929452bkw.4.1330718652032; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bk0-f51.google.com (mail-bk0-f51.google.com [209.85.214.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20si7319082bko.3.2012.03.02.12.04.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.51; Received: by mail-bk0-f51.google.com with SMTP id j10so1885919bkw.38 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 10.112.25.40 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.112.25.40; Received: from mr.google.com ([10.112.25.40]) by 10.112.25.40 with SMTP id z8mr5101940lbf.11.1330718651992 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:04:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.25.40 with SMTP id z8mr4146276lbf.11.1330718651879; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 12:04:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.148.225 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 12:04:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5d95b0be-447f-4b0a-9fab-5942d9c6b838@ge5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> References: <8929c895-6264-4ae8-b9ff-1d3b3094d404@gr6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <20120302180216.GP29980@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <201203021425.44744.phma@phma.optus.nu> <5d95b0be-447f-4b0a-9fab-5942d9c6b838@ge5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 13:04:11 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Let's do something like this for Lojban! From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040122a38a91f804ba481488 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 6186 --f46d040122a38a91f804ba481488 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, based on the first 15 panels, the Lojban is comparatively easy. I haven't looked at the rest yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if that trend continued. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:56 PM, ianek wrote: > The goal of the comic I was proposing is that people with no knowledge > of Lojban could read it. So it shouldn't introduce many words at once > or complex grammar contructs, and everything should be illustrated (so > "mi smaji jbize'a gi'e plipe le cipni"). And also I suggest that the > story should be kid-friendly (so no killing). My comic fails at being > comprehensible for naljbopre, so it should be something better > illustrated or easier. > > I'm not sure that translating that comic is a good idea, because > things easy in Ceqli don't have to be easy in Lojban. > > mu'o mi'e ianek > > On 2 Mar, 20:25, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Friday, March 02, 2012 14:03:51 ianek wrote: > > >http://i.imgur.com/FsdHp.jpg > > > This is just a quick and dirty thing to show my own art and story- > > > telling skills. > > > But I have a friend who can draw really well and maybe she could help. > > > But the other important thing is the script. Maybe this can be done > > > cooperatively? > > > > mi nelci le mlatu .ije mi nelci lo mlatu .i mi stidi di'e > > > > ni'o mi kalte lo cipni .i mi tolcri le cipni .i mi smaji jbize'a gi'e > plipe le > > cipni .i mi catra le cipni .i mi vimcu le pimlu le cipni .i mi citka le > cipni > > > > mu'omi'e .pier. > > -- > > Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --f46d040122a38a91f804ba481488 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, based on the first 15 panels, the Lojban is comparatively easy. I hav= en't looked at the rest yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if that tr= end continued.

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:= 56 PM, ianek <jan= ek37@gmail.com> wrote:
The goal of the comic I was proposing is tha= t people with no knowledge
of Lojban could read it. So it shouldn't introduce many words at once or complex grammar contructs, and everything should be illustrated (so
"mi smaji jbize'a gi'e plipe le cipni"). And also I sugge= st that the
story should be kid-friendly (so no killing). My comic fails at being
comprehensible for naljbopre, so it should be something better
illustrated or easier.

I'm not sure that translating that comic is a good idea, because
things easy in Ceqli don't have to be easy in Lojban.

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 2 Mar, 20:25, Pierre Abbat <<= a href=3D"mailto:p...@phma.optus.nu">p...@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> On Friday, March 02, 2012 14:03:51 ianek wrote:
> >http://= i.imgur.com/FsdHp.jpg
> > This is just a quick and dirty thing to show my own art and story= -
> > telling skills.
> > But I have a friend who can draw really well and maybe she could = help.
> > But the other important thing is the script. Maybe this can be do= ne
> > cooperatively?
>
> mi nelci le mlatu .ije mi nelci lo mlatu .i mi stidi di'e
>
> ni'o mi kalte lo cipni .i mi tolcri le cipni .i mi smaji jbize'= ;a gi'e plipe le
> cipni .i mi catra le cipni .i mi vimcu le pimlu le cipni .i mi citka l= e cipni
>
> mu'omi'e .pier.
> --
> Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.
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