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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:46:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] mi'a .e ko.e'u se nunkei la'e lu lo do ckiku ma zvati From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sebastian_Fr=F6jd?= To: "lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com" X-Original-Sender: so.cool.ogi@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of so.cool.ogi@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=so.cool.ogi@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=485b390f7b2061d2e904ba2dd94f X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 9514 --485b390f7b2061d2e904ba2dd94f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, everything you say make sense. Next time maybe a short introduction to the game before starting it?? I didn't know what I was supposed to do really. co'omi'e jongausib Den torsdagen den 1:e mars 2012 skrev Jonathan Jones: > I nearly forgot. This is supposed to a be a group thing, so more than one person ought to be responding, as well. If the players are capable, I'm willing to skip past basic selbri and assume everyone's at least familiar with grammar as laid out in L4B or equivalent. > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > As I said, the game is a learning one. Specifically, this game is designed to teach someone a new language from nothing, learning words, grammar, etc. by playing the game. > > Basically, your answers were overly complicated. There's no rule that says you can't use stuff that hasn't been introduced, but I'm betting that's because it's not expected for the players to know anything that hasn't. > > In any case, the reason why {ko'a rokci} is the answer to {ko'a mo} is because all you're expected to know is {.i ko'a goi ta rokci .i ko'e goi ta grana} > > On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd wrote: > > well, I see myself as a lojban beginner. I understand your reply, but I will not try to answer in lojban. I get your point to make things simple for beginners, but I don't really get the rules for this game. And if the content is pretty pointless, the whole thing seem pretty pointless, even for =E0 beginner as me. Sorry, for thinking too much. > fa'omi'e jongausib > > Den torsdagen den 1:e mars 2012 skrev Jonathan Jones: >> ti xe cilre nunkei .i do duspei .i ji'a le vi nunkei cu tese zu'edji ro nintadni .i ku'inai lo bridi cu tese zu'edji lo sampu >> >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd wrote: >> >> .i go'e gi'e go'a .i .ienaidai lo grana jenai rokci ku me ko'a .o ko'e >> >> 2012/2/29 Jonathan Jones >>> >>> to .i ko'a je'a rokci toi >>> >>> .i xu ko'a grana >>> .i xu ko'e rokci >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd wrote: >>>> >>>> .i je'a ko'a rokci gi'e me lo rokci .i je'a ko'e grana gi'e me lo grana .i ku'i ko'a mo ko'e >>>> >>>> Den tisdagen den 28:e februari 2012 skrev Jonathan Jones< eyeonus@gmail.com>: >>>> > go'i najenai go'e .i ko'a rokci .i ko'a me lo rokci .i ko'e grana .i ko'e me lo grana >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd < so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > .i ko'a pe lo plini cu cmalu >>>> > .i ku'i ko'e na'e go'i ni'i ma >>>> > >>>> > Den tisdagen den 28:e februari 2012 skrev Jonathan Jones< eyeonus@gmail.com>: >>>> >> .i ko'a mo to ko'a me ma toi .i ko'e mo to ko'e me ma toi >>>> >> >>>> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> lo se nunkei cu cmene lu lo do ckiku ma zvati li'u >>>> >> >>>> >> lo se skicu cu zvati zo'oi.http://lodockikumazvati.org >>>> >> >>>> >> .i ko'a mo .i ko'e mo >>>> >> >>>> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd < so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> je'e .i o'anai.u'i >>>> >> .i ma te ci'erkei ti .uanai >>>> >> >>>> >> Den m=E5ndagen den 27:e februari 2012 s --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --485b390f7b2061d2e904ba2dd94f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, everything you say make sense. Next time maybe a short introduction to = the game before starting it?? I didn't know what I was supposed to do r= eally.

co'omi'e jongausib

Den torsdagen den 1:e m= ars 2012 skrev Jonathan Jones<eyeon= us@gmail.com>:
> I nearly forgot. This is supposed to a be a group thing, so more than = one person ought to be responding, as well. If the players are capable, I&#= 39;m willing to skip past basic selbri and assume everyone's at least f= amiliar with grammar as laid out in L4B or equivalent.
>
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> = As I said, the game is a learning one. Specifically, this game is designed = to teach someone a new language from nothing, learning words, grammar, etc.= by playing the game.
>
> Basically, your answers were overly complicated. There's n= o rule that says you can't use stuff that hasn't been introduced, b= ut I'm betting that's because it's not expected for the players= to know anything that hasn't.
>
> In any case, the reason why {ko'a rokci} is the answer to = {ko'a mo} is because all you're expected to know is {.i ko'a go= i ta rokci .i ko'e goi ta grana}
>
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at= 2:24 AM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd <so= .cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> well, I see myself as a lojban beginner. I understand your rep= ly, but I will not try to answer in lojban. I get your point to make things= simple for beginners, but I don't really get the rules for this game. = And if the content is pretty pointless, the whole thing seem pretty pointle= ss, even for =E0 beginner as me. Sorry, for thinking too much.
> fa'omi'e jongausib
>
> Den torsdagen den 1:e mars = 2012 skrev Jonathan Jones<eyeonus@g= mail.com>:
>> ti xe cilre nunkei .i do duspei .i ji'a l= e vi nunkei cu tese zu'edji ro nintadni .i ku'inai lo bridi cu tese= zu'edji lo sampu
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd &l= t;so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wr= ote:
>>
>> .i go'e gi'e go'a .i .ienaidai lo = grana jenai rokci ku me ko'a .o ko'e
>>
>> 2012/2/29 Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> to .i= ko'a je'a rokci toi
>>>
>>> .i xu ko'a= grana
>>> .i xu ko'e rokci
>>>
>>> On Wed, F= eb 29, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>= ;>>> .i je'a ko'a rokci gi'e me lo rokci .i je'a k= o'e grana gi'e me lo grana .i ku'i ko'a mo ko'e
>>>>
>>>> Den tisdagen den 28:e februari 2012 sk= rev Jonathan Jones<eyeonus@gmail.co= m>:
>>>> > go'i najenai go'e .i ko'a r= okci .i ko'a me lo rokci .i ko'e grana .i ko'e me lo grana
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:24= AM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd <so.cool= .ogi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> = > .i ko'a pe lo plini cu cmalu
>>>> > .i ku'i ko'e na'e go'i ni'i ma>>>> >
>>>> > Den tisdagen den 28:e febru= ari 2012 skrev Jonathan Jones<eyeon= us@gmail.com>:
>>>> >> .i ko'a mo to ko'a me ma toi .i ko'e = mo to ko'e me ma toi
>>>> >>
>>>> &= gt;> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> lo se nunkei cu cmen= e lu lo do ckiku ma zvati li'u
>>>> >>
>>= >> >> lo se skicu cu zvati zo'oi.http://lodockikumazvati.org
>>>> >>
>>>> >> .i ko'a mo .i ko= 'e mo
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Mon,= Feb 27, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Sebastian Fr=F6jd <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> je'e .i o'an= ai.u'i
>>>> >> .i ma te ci'erkei ti .uanai
= >>>> >>
>>>> >> Den m=E5ndagen den 2= 7:e februari 2012 s

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