Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:56578) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S3kEw-0003aU-0i; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:22:54 -0800 Received: by yhkk25 with SMTP id k25sf2253676yhk.16 for ; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:22:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCMLaiI6rCBC-qcf6BBoESLp2eg@googlegroups.com designates 10.52.71.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.52.71.18; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lojban-beginners+bncCMLaiI6rCBC-qcf6BBoESLp2eg@googlegroups.com designates 10.52.71.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lojban-beginners+bncCMLaiI6rCBC-qcf6BBoESLp2eg@googlegroups.com; dkim=pass header.i=lojban-beginners+bncCMLaiI6rCBC-qcf6BBoESLp2eg@googlegroups.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.52.71.18]) by 10.52.71.18 with SMTP id q18mr209367vdu.14.1330762967692 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:22:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SJiFymUsTnfi7ZMfTlFF16clNSfriv4rvJGWY0BKYi4=; b=SBnHaZi86mUBR1tcWTYsu6UrwknrPT0BHmPOjCOFA9zWaVZ2VJNqpRbl77m+nM0zKB Aewwno1WrEur5ub15vmuEh35wNGd4GkFK46xU8t0kdHqvbxz2/bgfqApy9+CjhsxAYtD R6alSBC+gdP8G5CEVO6dtR+dkJv/lh7Ke7d38= Received: by 10.52.71.18 with SMTP id q18mr56162vdu.14.1330762942285; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:22:22 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.128.139 with SMTP id k11ls3656481vcs.5.gmail; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:22:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.70.242 with SMTP id p18mr2245914vdu.18.1330762941687; Sat, 03 Mar 2012 00:22:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 9g2000vbq.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sat, 3 Mar 2012 00:22:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 00:22:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <403edab5-64d7-4856-8d16-cabd74672668@i6g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> References: <403edab5-64d7-4856-8d16-cabd74672668@i6g2000yqe.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/535.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/17.0.963.56 Safari/535.11,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: skina fanva From: ianek To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: janek37@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of janek37@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=janek37@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 2138 On 2 Mar, 21:19, iesk wrote: > coi lojbo > > I hope one way (for me) to learn Lojban is to try and use it. So, for > my personal amusement, I tried to translate this clip (le te skina ku > pendo):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVmW92vwNRWw(There are > subtitles in English, among others.) The clip is quite nice. :) > > This is what I came up with (quite longwinded in comparison to the > Esperanto original, btw): > > --- > lo dilnu zo'u ca'o lo na'arki'o loi remna cu jmive bu'u lo dy. ctino > noi ze'epu nalckape > > .i ku'i lo vindu gundi .a ke'unai lo nu ciplanli be bu'u lo mipri > skegunku'a be lo fenki cu rinka lo nu morsi dilnu gunta > > ni'o fi'o ralju xe draci la roberton. kamarelen. ko lifri tu'a la > roberton. kamarelen. .e le nonbandu tcadu .e le fenki skepre > > .i je go'i lo nu morsi dilnu gunta > --- > > So, I guess there are several problems. First of all, I=92m not sure > about the way I rendered the title. I have, of course, no idea about > Lojbanistani conventions for film titles, and I don=92t know if this is > elegant. > > Furthermore, the original has a strange causal (is it?) sentence: ~ > "Poisonous industry, experiments [=85] of a madman lead to blabla." The > industry does not seem to have much to do with the experiments, but in > Lojban I suspect you can=92t just enumerate without specifying the > relation between those two causes. ".a ke'unai" is probably rubbish, > though. > > Does the "fi'o" construction make sense? > > Oh, and I made up "na'arki'o" for "millennia" and "skegunku'a" for > "laboratory"; not sure about those, neither. > > I=92d be glad to here comments and corrections. a'u ki'e > > (ta'o zoi gy subtitle gy se fanva fu ma) pe'i zo skutcita mu'o mi'e ianek > > mu'o mi'e iesk --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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