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On 6 March 2012 19:32, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> to minimize confusion,
> all the uses of tV that referred to a location are now vVku.
>

{viku} is not a sumti, so that is not a genuine substitution. It just
happens that
the textual substitution gives
  {mi zvati viku} =3D=3D=3D {mi vi zvati} =3D=3D=3D {viku mi zvati},
which might work.

(I have not made up my mind about how to read space/time tenses in selbri
that have places for position/time)

Anyway, please consider the possible confusion of taking {viku} to be a sum=
ti.
To someone unacquainted with lojban, all evidence in the text points in tha=
t
direction. Particularly misleading is
> 36. sy: mi zvati ma
>      cy: doi.sam. do zvati vaku
where a sumti-question is answered with a tense.


Below some random things I spotted.

> 56. lo mi'a bersa cu zvati viku .i lo go'i cu barda zmadu lo vu nanla .i =
se
> cmene la.bil. .i la.bil. bersa mi'a .i lo go'i xabju kansa mi'a lo mi'a
> zdani

> .i se
> cmene la.bil.

la -> zo


> .i lo go'i xabju kansa mi'a lo mi'a
> zdani

This sentence has no selbri. Maybe you wanted
  {.i lo go'i cu xabju kansa mi'a lo mi'a zdani}?

Anyway, I am not sure {lo mi'a zdani} is a kansa3, but it is xabju2,
  {.i lo go'i cu xabju be lo mi'a zdani be'o kansa mi'a}.

Anynyway, the simple
  {.i lo go'i cu xabju kansa mi'a}
looks equally informative to me.


> 57. cy: lo do tixnu cu zvati ma
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 by: go'i tu .i re vu nixli cu tixnu mi'a

Here you left the {tu} to denote a place, in contrast with 36. Overlooked?

As I said, I actually prefer this {tu} version.

By the way, why did you choose to always answer sumti-questions with
a full bridi, as opposed to a simple sumti?


> 72. mi nanca li civo .ije lo mi nakspe goi la.sam. nanca li cixa .i lo go=
'i
> cu zmadu mi lo se nanca li re .i lo mi'a tixnu cu zmadu lo mi'a bersa lo =
se
> nanca li vo
>

zmadu3 is a dimension, so it should be {lo ka ce'u nanca makau kei}.
Since this is the last utterance, and it appears to be decipherable,
you might want to play with the reader and leave it like that. A more
friendly alternative is to use a tanru like {nanca zmadu}, as in 56.

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

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