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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: {me ko'a} instead of {broda} ?
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Sorry for quoting and not linking: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.ph=
p?page=3DBPFK+Section%3A+gadri

As for "How to use xorlo", I understand it differently:

   - lo with an outer quantifier, which is exactly the same thing as
just
   sticking a number before an item (i.e. "mu lo bakni" =3D=3D "mu bakni"
=3D=3D "five
   cows), works pretty much as before: "five things that really are
cows".
   - lo's inner quantifier indicates the number of things we're
talking
   about....

When we have both outer and inner quantifier, eg. {re lo mu bakni}, it
tells that we're talking about five cows, ie. the universe of disourse
contains five cows, but the number of cows we're stating something
about is two. And also, I think that this quoted text is not quite
clear.

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 9 Mar, 10:29, ianek <jane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It can also be deduced from "BPFK Section: gadri".
>
> We have definitions:
> lo [PA] broda =A0 =A0zo'e noi ke'a broda [gi'e zilkancu li PA lo broda]
> PA [sumti] =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 PA da poi ke'a me [sumti]
>
> So, {pa lo re gusta} translates to {pa da poi ke'a me zo'e noi ke'a
> gusta gi'e zilkancu li re lo gusta}
> ie.
> "one (quantified) thing which is one of something, which is
> restaurant(s) and consists of two counting by units of restaurants" or
> something like that, or if you'd like it put more simply: "Never
> imagine yourself..." err sorry, "one of two restaurants".
>
> mu'o mi'e ianek
>
> On 9 Mar, 10:12, Lindar <lindartheb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > re gusta =3D re lo gusta =3D "two things which actually are restauran=
ts" =3D
> > > "two restaurants".
> > > re lo pa gusta =3D "one of two things (blah blah)" =3D "one of two
> > > restaurants".
> > > lo re gusta =3D "two of one or more things (blah blah)" =3D "two of X
> > > restaurants", where X is an unstated number.
>
> > You have this backward. One of two restaurants is {pa lo re gusta}.
> > Source: genrei

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