Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:39121) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S6caP-0000Mn-2j; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:49:01 -0800 Received: by wera1 with SMTP id a1sf3561354wer.16 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:48:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=t1gJJ7rchOHVbpAq8txkpGzARGlJqbpDHUPLlLyqMZI=; b=V17DtGJqf95DPo43hR7TFOQscN42sUoWOeEIMnZX2utQW0u603wl3Sj64XNtT0KAr6 GeTYc9wKkBSKIZJY1+xmigXElBSjkzT5vb61jMNB0Sav/O/3ffXk5Ee8kuLVpGGl1e6u RLkn4M6FYhRa4AKHQ34dPB8CqKUQCTfDrRZGw= Received: by 10.204.145.80 with SMTP id c16mr608328bkv.34.1331448505460; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:48:25 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.45.87 with SMTP id d23ls7023488bkf.2.gmail; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:48:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.150.90 with SMTP id x26mr565440bkv.6.1331448504351; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:48:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.150.90 with SMTP id x26mr565439bkv.6.1331448504322; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:48:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com [209.85.215.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cs9si5268014bkb.3.2012.03.10.22.48.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:48:24 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.47; Received: by lagw12 with SMTP id w12so4018561lag.34 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:48:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.104.43 with SMTP id gb11mr5966798lab.8.1331448503890; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:48:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.148.225 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:48:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.148.225 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Mar 2012 22:48:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4DF1FFE3-500E-443F-855F-2E2BD6E666DB@gmail.com> References: <4DF1FFE3-500E-443F-855F-2E2BD6E666DB@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 23:48:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] coi rodo From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040713dd1c714c04baf20311 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 10782 --f46d040713dd1c714c04baf20311 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ah. That's somewhat interesting. Also, I agree that audio books would be a nice addition. If you want any assistance, I volunteer, in any capacity I can serve. to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. fonxa toi mu'o mi'e.aionys. On Mar 10, 2012 11:42 PM, "Devin Prater" wrote: > Well, computer braille is an atempt to fit all ascy characters into > braille code. All punctuation maps to a single dot pattern, while in grade > 2 English braille, there are alreaviation-like things, known as > contractions, that were made to make braille faster to read and to minimize > paper usage. I've now found a Lojban Dictionary app on the iOS app store. > I'll probably be using that a lot. Hmm, I was thinking a while ago that > it'd be pretty good if someone made an audio book on Lojban. I might do one > someday. It'd also be good if books on Lojban were in the iBooks store and > the Google Books stores. > > Sent from my iPod > > On Mar 11, 2012, at 12:13 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > First of all, WELCOME! It's always nice to meet nintadni (new students (of > Lojban)). I hope you find your stay in jbogugde enjoyable. > > Secondly, not being blind, I've never really delved into braille much, so > I wasn't aware there's were any kinds other than the straight mapping of > letter->bump code. This is news to me. What is "computer braille"? > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Devin Prater wrote: > >> coi rodo .i >> I am new to the list, well I joined a month or so ago, but didn't write >> because I always forgot to do so. In my free time after school and >> sometimes during class, I read "An Introduction to Lojban". I gathered it >> from the website in a .txt, text, file and put it on my reading device. >> Note to all blind Lojbanists, you might prefer using computer braille when >> reading Lojban. Anyways, I'm a little past the chapter on quotations, and I >> might re-read some things, because I need to build up my vocabulary. I've >> also gotten a friend from school interested, and that friend is a little >> past learning about gismu and stuff. I don't really have any questions >> right now, just wanted you all to be aware of my presence on the list. >> Oh wait, one question just made its way into my mind, I wonder, since >> there is an Esperanto braille code, I wonder if there will be a Lojban >> braille code. Braille, for anyone, well most of you, is the system blind >> people use to read. Perhaps computer braille will do, since its pretty >> universal, I think. Yes, computer braille would make since for a language >> that tries to be as usable by everyone as possible. >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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Ah. That's somewhat interesting. Also, I agree that audio books woul= d be a nice addition. If you want any assistance, I volunteer, in any capac= ity I can serve.

to pu benji ti fo lo mi me la.android. fonxa toi
mu'o mi'e.aionys.

On Mar 10, 2012 11:42 PM, "Devin Prater&quo= t; <r.d.t.prater@gmail.com= > wrote:
Well, computer braille is an atempt to fit al= l ascy characters into braille code. All punctuation maps to a single dot p= attern, while in grade 2 English braille, there are alreaviation-like thing= s, known as contractions, that were made to make braille faster to read and= to minimize paper usage. I've now found a Lojban Dictionary app on the= iOS app store. I'll probably be using that a lot. Hmm, I was thinking = a while ago that it'd be pretty good if someone made an audio book on L= ojban. I might do one someday. It'd also be good if books on Lojban wer= e in the iBooks store and the Google Books stores.=A0

Sent from my iPod

On Mar 11, 2012, at 12:13 AM, Jonathan = Jones <eyeonus@gm= ail.com> wrote:

First of all, WELCOME! It's always nice to meet nintadni (new students = (of Lojban)). I hope you find your stay in jbogugde enjoyable.

Secon= dly, not being blind, I've never really delved into braille much, so I = wasn't aware there's were any kinds other than the straight mapping= of letter->bump code. This is news to me. What is "computer braill= e"?

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Devin Prate= r <r.d.t.prater@gmail.com> wrote:
coi rodo .i
I am new to the list, well I joined a month or so ago, but didn't write= because I always forgot to do so. In my free time after school and sometim= es during class, I read "An Introduction to Lojban". I gathered i= t from the website in a .txt, text, file and put it on my reading device. N= ote to all blind Lojbanists, you might prefer using computer braille when r= eading Lojban. Anyways, I'm a little past the chapter on quotations, an= d I might re-read some things, because I need to build up my vocabulary. I&= #39;ve also gotten a friend from school interested, and that friend is a li= ttle past learning about gismu and stuff. I =A0don't really have any qu= estions right now, just wanted you all to be aware of my presence on the li= st.
Oh wait, one question just made its way into my mind, I wonder, since there= is an Esperanto braille code, I wonder if there will be a Lojban braille c= ode. Braille, for anyone, well most of you, is the system blind people use = to read. Perhaps computer braille will do, since its pretty universal, I th= ink. Yes, computer braille would make since for a language that tries to be= as usable by everyone as possible.

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