Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:55981)
	by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128)
	(Exim 4.76)
	(envelope-from <lojban-beginners+bncCOib25n_BhCG3_X6BBoEA0Lvhg@googlegroups.com>)
	id 1S6w5N-0007S7-3s; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:38:17 -0700
Received: by vcbfo11 with SMTP id fo11sf4975871vcb.16
        for <multiple recipients>; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:38:06 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=googlegroups.com; s=beta;
        h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id
         :subject:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results
         :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id
         :list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe
         :content-type:content-transfer-encoding;
        bh=7loluOwmd6PMPZiW9cAsPfm+Cc5uevLqY+m6DRfCuJ0=;
        b=Yu2JSD9iTwF/2j6s8VGjy+Pyc9/4QvIJmFl93nErYkXGMcl21tPhZrHgXJj0f7c9Ik
         pLJJ4bUEKD7St/F9j3lx3mKyVZbuDzz/Qv6+3N2I4oBnyvVoTeJ9A3TacJpp+Hlj8/aR
         xTwE99FXw+mv+0AbVca+Kp6LvoPeH1vmLuXnU=
Received: by 10.236.156.73 with SMTP id l49mr1216138yhk.15.1331523462271;
        Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:37:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com
Received: by 10.101.201.10 with SMTP id d10ls6047606anq.1.gmail; Sun, 11 Mar
 2012 20:37:40 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.101.112.3 with SMTP id p3mr4356373anm.0.1331523460496;
        Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:37:40 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.101.112.3 with SMTP id p3mr4356372anm.0.1331523460479;
        Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:37:40 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-gx0-f178.google.com (mail-gx0-f178.google.com [209.85.161.178])
        by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a33si3938272anp.2.2012.03.11.20.37.40
        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
        Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:37:40 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.178;
Received: by ggno1 with SMTP id o1so2515878ggn.23
        for <lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com>; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:37:40 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.182.202.69 with SMTP id kg5mr6299827obc.35.1331523460300; Sun,
 11 Mar 2012 20:37:40 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com
Received: by 10.182.153.68 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:37:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 23:37:20 -0400
Message-ID: <CALm==BVjTs8ThjGA7SNn3MKPA+bDp6DjX-wxd1Zgm0tN52YFNg@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Checking my intuition; how would you say this?
To: Lojban Beginners <lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com>
X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com
X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com:
 domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.178 as permitted sender)
 smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com
Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com
Precedence: list
Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com
List-ID: <lojban-beginners.googlegroups.com>
X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892
List-Post: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/post?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com>
List-Help: <http://groups.google.com/support/?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban-beginners+help@googlegroups.com>
List-Archive: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en_US>
List-Subscribe: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/subscribe?hl=en_US>,
 <mailto:lojban-beginners+subscribe@googlegroups.com>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/subscribe?hl=en_US>,
 <mailto:googlegroups-manage+300742228892+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/)
X-Spam_score: -0.7
X-Spam_score_int: -6
X-Spam_bar: /
Content-Length: 989

"I am tired, both physically and mentally." (Although what I'd really
like to say is more like "Je suis fatigu=E9 et j'ai someil.")
In the lojban, I opt for precision over the parallelism:

{.i mi tatpi le'a ge lo si'o xadni gi lo si'o sipna}

Is {le'a} appropriate here?
Is {si'o} appropriate? (I initially went with {su'u})
I seem to recall the fact that {.i mi tatpi le'a lo si'o ge xadni gi
sipna} means something fundamentally different, but I can't recall
what; I'd prefer to use this phrasing if it still expresses what I
mean, since it's more compact and doesn't repeat {lo si'o}.

--=20
mu'o mi'e .arpis.

--=20
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "=
Lojban Beginners" group.
To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@=
googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban=
-beginners?hl=3Den.