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On 14 March 2012 13:09, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2012/3/14 Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com>:
>> On 13 March 2012 23:09, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 18:52:33 .arpis. wrote:
>>>> "I will be free between 9:30 and 10:30 and between 1:00 and 5:00"
>>>> {mi zilfre ze'a lo temci be li so pi mu bei li dau pi mu be'o .e lo
>>>> temci be li pa bei li mu be'o}
>>
>> My suggestion is
>> =A0{mi zifre ti'u li so pi mu bi'o pano pi mu jo'u li pa bi'o mu}.
>
> Do you mean {mi zifre ti'u li so pi mu bi'o *li* pano pi mu jo'u li pa
> bi'o *li* mu}?
>

I was purposely using the {bi'o} to connect operands, as in
http://dag.github.com/cll/18/17/#e7

You can also use {bi'o} to connect sumti, but, in your version,
wouldn't we need a {bo} after the last {bi'o}?


>> ta'o
>>> I assume that the first period is in the morning and the second is in t=
he
>>> afternoon. To make that clear, I'd say "li pano pi'e cino pe le cerni .=
.. li
>>> mu pi'e pe le vanci" or "li paci pi'e bi'o li paze pi'e". If you're an
>>> astronomer, you probably want to reverse the assumption. "pe le cerni"
>>> associates only with "li pano pi'e cino", so if the interval crosses no=
on, you
>>> can tag the first time with "pe le cerni" and the second with "pe le va=
nci" (or
>>> tag both with "pe le donri"). If you want to tag the whole time interva=
l with
>>> "pe le cerni", I'm not sure. jbofi'e balks at "ke".
>>>
>>
>> Why not use 24h time?
>> For 12h time a convention similar to "a.m/p.m" could be used, since, e.g=
.,
>> {pa pi mu vy} is a valid expression. Isn't there such kind of convention=
?
>
> I don't think there's such a convention. I don't like using letterals
> in numbers, mostly because I don't understand what it means, and I
> don't think anyone have explained it clearly.
>

I would say it is just a notation. Of course, people have to agree on
which notation they are using.

By the way, I don't like {li pano pe le cerni} because I think it is too
much to introduce two different number 10's for a.m/p.m. a.m/p.m
looks more like part of the number to me.

Another option would be to use {certcika}/{vactcika} instead of
{tcika}, and {fi'o certcika}/{fi'o vactcika} instead of {ti'u}.

Anyhow, 24h time is so easy compared to lojban...

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

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