Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:48368) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S7uCP-0000OJ-4g; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:49:35 -0700 Received: by dacx6 with SMTP id x6sf3328449dac.16 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:49:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SJlVK9WA895u1hBVWm8cPmqxxYOhEr+XUGUp+A6fi/g=; b=pJqKGOf4i9VPEtqVF2wNPsAfH5Ow4RGbAeLORauoQdmUFCyfCVknwbCAruWHQsmsE4 7ieTyxlB5d0r1vku/uoRSO3nCY9wZnSWuuiTmaSDx7xjEMqTDZ1uB7FYEy0IKYON5tol DE+aEZU7wJNup9Dim2xuM41O466f0IHcZ97FM= Received: by 10.236.161.4 with SMTP id v4mr1162636yhk.9.1331754537432; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:48:57 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.185.132 with SMTP id u4ls3751973yhm.1.gmail; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.184.135 with SMTP id s7mr5266969yhm.9.1331754536632; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.184.135 with SMTP id s7mr5266966yhm.9.1331754536621; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-f52.google.com (mail-yw0-f52.google.com [209.85.213.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e44si2744227yhk.0.2012.03.14.12.48.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.52; Received: by mail-yw0-f52.google.com with SMTP id p61so2744670yhp.11 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.30.66 with SMTP id q2mr5083211oeh.25.1331754536456; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:48:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.153.68 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:48:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201203132209.51268.phma@phma.optus.nu> From: ".arpis." Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:48:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Phrasing question: time intervals To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 3025 http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+Distance seems to say that it won't work as a sumtcita. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:26 PM, ianek wrote: > > > On 14 Mar, 17:09, ".arpis." wrote: >> 2012/3/14 Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis : >> >> > On 13 March 2012 23:09, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 18:52:33 .arpis. wrote: >> >>> "I will be free between 9:30 and 10:30 and between 1:00 and 5:00" >> >>> {mi zilfre ze'a lo temci be li so pi mu bei li dau pi mu be'o .e lo >> >>> temci be li pa bei li mu be'o} >> >> >>> Is the use of {temci} correct here? {ze'a}? >> >> > temci2 and temci3 are not numbers, but events. >> > You may use {lo se tcika be li...}. >> >> jbovlaste seems to indicate that they can be times or events, but >> point taken that a number is neither. >> >> >> >> >>> Is there a shorter way to say it? >> >> > My suggestion is >> > =A0{mi zifre ti'u li so pi mu bi'o pano pi mu jo'u li pa bi'o mu}. >> >> Do you mean {mi zifre ti'u li so pi mu bi'o *li* pano pi mu jo'u li pa >> bi'o *li* mu}? >> >> >> >> > You may use {e} instead of {jo'u} if you prefer. >> > You could use a single mekso with the union-operator {jo'e}, but I rec= ommend >> > limiting the complexity of mekso. >> >> I'll stay away from mekso for now, thank you very much. >> >> >> >> >> I'd say "mi zifre ca li so pi'e cino bi'obo li pano pi'e cino .e li p= a pi'e >> >> bi'obo li mu pi'e". jbofi'e doesn't like that; it wants "lo'o" (the t= erminator >> >> for "li") before "bi'o". One of the "bo" is necessary but the other i= sn't. >> >> > {ca} tags an event. A number is not an event. {ca lo se tcika be li...= } should >> > be acceptable. Even so, I don't think {ca} implies that the freeness e= xtends >> > along the whole interval, just that it intersects it. >> >> True, but pragmatics would dictate that, even if I'm not available >> throughout the entire interval, any point you request within the >> interval is valid. > > Would {ze'e} work for this? Like {mi sipna ze'e lo prulamdei} =96 > "Yesterday I was sleeping all day"? It's just a guess, I'm rarely sure > what will come out of using a tense as a tag. > > mu'o mi'e ianek > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscrib= e@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 mu'o mi'e .arpis. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.