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{ze'e lo nu zasti fa le munje cu mi do xebni}
"For as long as the universe has existed and will exist, which is
forever, I hate you"

Also, the has an example of {ze'e} being used figuratively c.f. "a
moment lasting forever"

http://dag.github.com/cll/10/9/ seems to indicate that {ru'i} would
make explicit that the statement applies to the entire interval, so
maybe
{mi ru'i zifre ti'u li so pi mu bi'o pano pi mu jo'u li pa bi'o mu}

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:02 PM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:
> "When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the unbounded duration."
> I don't understand how one can specify the unbounded duration. Other
> than {li ci'i}, I mean.
>
> mu'o mi'e ianek
>
> On 14 Mar, 20:48, ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+Distanceseems to say that
>> it won't work as a sumtcita.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:26 PM, ianek <jane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On 14 Mar, 17:09, ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> 2012/3/14 Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis <felipeg.as...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> >> > On 13 March 2012 23:09, Pierre Abbat <p...@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
>> >> >> On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 18:52:33 .arpis. wrote:
>> >> >>> "I will be free between 9:30 and 10:30 and between 1:00 and 5:00"
>> >> >>> {mi zilfre ze'a lo temci be li so pi mu bei li dau pi mu be'o .e =
lo
>> >> >>> temci be li pa bei li mu be'o}
>>
>> >> >>> Is the use of {temci} correct here? {ze'a}?
>>
>> >> > temci2 and temci3 are not numbers, but events.
>> >> > You may use {lo se tcika be li...}.
>>
>> >> jbovlaste seems to indicate that they can be times or events, but
>> >> point taken that a number is neither.
>>
>> >> >>> Is there a shorter way to say it?
>>
>> >> > My suggestion is
>> >> > =A0{mi zifre ti'u li so pi mu bi'o pano pi mu jo'u li pa bi'o mu}.
>>
>> >> Do you mean {mi zifre ti'u li so pi mu bi'o *li* pano pi mu jo'u li p=
a
>> >> bi'o *li* mu}?
>>
>> >> > You may use {e} instead of {jo'u} if you prefer.
>> >> > You could use a single mekso with the union-operator {jo'e}, but I =
recommend
>> >> > limiting the complexity of mekso.
>>
>> >> I'll stay away from mekso for now, thank you very much.
>>
>> >> >> I'd say "mi zifre ca li so pi'e cino bi'obo li pano pi'e cino .e l=
i pa pi'e
>> >> >> bi'obo li mu pi'e". jbofi'e doesn't like that; it wants "lo'o" (th=
e terminator
>> >> >> for "li") before "bi'o". One of the "bo" is necessary but the othe=
r isn't.
>>
>> >> > {ca} tags an event. A number is not an event. {ca lo se tcika be li=
...} should
>> >> > be acceptable. Even so, I don't think {ca} implies that the freenes=
s extends
>> >> > along the whole interval, just that it intersects it.
>>
>> >> True, but pragmatics would dictate that, even if I'm not available
>> >> throughout the entire interval, any point you request within the
>> >> interval is valid.
>>
>> > Would {ze'e} work for this? Like {mi sipna ze'e lo prulamdei} =96
>> > "Yesterday I was sleeping all day"? It's just a guess, I'm rarely sure
>> > what will come out of using a tense as a tag.
>>
>> > mu'o mi'e ianek
>>
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