The victory over other logical projects must be total.

The question is similar to recent discussion about {kakne}= - x1 is capable of {x2} which accomplishes the requirement of pivotal sent= ences whereas many other gismu do not.

{mi cpedu lonu do rinsa [k= o'a,zo'e,lo prenu, etc.]} is not the answer. It's too ambiguous. Where is x= 3 ? Who are you asking this for ?

It's like {mi kakne lo nu do ri= nsa mi} - an impractical solution that could be logically possible.

Compare with {djica} - {mi djica lo nu do rinsa mi} - that *is= * within the baseline.

The major flaw in Lojban is= that it cannot compactly express "I ask you to greet me". You have to say<= /div>

{mi cpedu [fe] lo nu do rinsa [ku] [fi] do}

And here is= the lack of compactness (two valsi {do} instead of one).

Even En= glish (not Pandunia !) is better. "I ask you to greet me" - absolutely= no need to repeat the word "you".

= SO THE MAJOR FLAW OF LOJBAN IS THE LACK OF CONNECTION BETWEEN SUMTI in many= gismu.

I can see only one solution.

{mi cpedu fi do po= i rinsa} therefore completely ignoring x2 (the act of ignoring at least won= 't break the baseline).

But I'm not sure whether it preserves the= needed meaning.

On Friday, March 16, 2012 10:31:11 AM UTC+4, Oleksi= i Melnyk wrote:

On 15 March 2012 18:10, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@= gmail.com> wrote:

So the second "sumti" ti in mi peti ti becomes the = first "sumti" of the next construction "ti tshau ta".
I wonder wh= ether it's possible to do so in Lojban. May {be} or {.i ri} can do the tric= k

>Pandunia ... lacks other complex grammatical stru= ctures ...

while lojban mandates them. So, in that example, it's ha= rd to ?factor? the sumti out of the abstraction. In some specific cases you= can get close enough with:

1. common set of sumti with 2 =ABbridi tails=BB - with reversed order, = common comes first
2. NOI, with the hardcoded semantic

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