Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:51122) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S8cbK-00016g-5H; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:14:11 -0700 Received: by vcbfo11 with SMTP id fo11sf6281353vcb.16 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:14:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5+WSeCbsldIxJxGmE8RdGIrW3DRpENnIOGuUwLD+2fM=; b=yjdU3+K2jRfhIrkV8PaDtJBVr4dxrEaaa4FQMIeKzdpaDCir4Kjp/wwvSSI0EbpR+B /y6mR9OXaOUbJo+xjs1tLLDAm596/nliT0WPpwKt+tzLnlJRPEx/rYEj4OvbbcfPJ9AV Pi/wQzqtqKgPtXEBV3D+1CNy33qD4A18CLsfQ= Received: by 10.236.187.3 with SMTP id x3mr862122yhm.18.1331925234737; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:13:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.179.173 with SMTP id h33ls8911760yhm.5.gmail; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:13:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.161.4 with SMTP id v4mr907232yhk.9.1331925234104; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by m13g2000yqi.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:13:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14627135.208.1331917668355.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbas10> References: <26361784.259.1331827845548.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjw14> <2343119.814.1331896532433.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynkz21> <32227855.55.1331909777553.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yncc18> <14627135.208.1331917668355.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbas10> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux i686; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.2,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <8d0c9d13-759b-467e-940f-84b4f4e4c666@m13g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Major flaw in Lojban ! (was:Pivotal sentences in Pandunia. How to express them in Lojban ?) From: iesk To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: pa.fae@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pa.fae@gmx.de designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=pa.fae@gmx.de; dkim=pass header.i=@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.4 X-Spam_score_int: -3 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 834 On Mar 16, 6:07=A0pm, gleki wrote: > OK. At least I can express "I want to sleep" as "mi djica lo nu ri sipna" > and I have to memorise just {lonuri}, a lengthy but practical string. Actually, you can=92t, can you? See CLL, chapter 7, section 6 (I=92d link but the web version seems to be down while I=92m writing this). AFAIK {ri}=92s backcounting ignores {mi} (which I always thought made sense, though). mu'o mi'e =B7iesk=B7 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.