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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] {me ko'a} instead of {broda} ?
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>> By the way, is {lo broda ku} =3D {ko'a} ?

No.
For one thing, you can't assign {lo broda} to an arbitrary sumti as
you assign {ko'a}.
For instance, you may say
  {ti goi ko'a grana .i ko'a melbi},
but the plain substitution
  {ti goi lo broda cu grana .i lo broda cu melbi}
is not ok.

You could say
  {ti grana cei broda .i lo broda cu melbi},
but, I guess, this would be equivalent to
  {ti grana .i lo grana cu melbi},
where {lo grana} need not be the rod you were pointing to.

Hope it clarifies.

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

On 16 March 2012 15:14, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ummm.. I don't think I would make that equivalence, no.
>
> Be careful using broda, though, since the most prevalent use of it is as =
a
> place holder to show constructions in lojban. =A0In those uses it remains
> undefined, and jbopre are most used to seeing them that way.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:54 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>>>
>>> =A0 While you can use the me construction, what you want (but why you w=
ould
>>> want it, I don't know ;-) ) is
>>> ko'a ponse re gusta cei broda [no'u pa finpe broda ku jo'u pa za'e
>>> pankeiki broda]
>>>
>> =A0Thank you. I also think that broda series better suit such situations
>> than ko'a.
>> By the way, is {lo broda ku} =3D {ko'a} ?
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