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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Please, give me place for a new experimental cmavo
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Oh, thank you for pointing it out. Indeed, {ri} doesn't count {mi}.
Can we fix the problem by inventing a new cmavo ?

Please, give me place for a new experimental cmavo that will mean {lo su'u=
=20
(any last sumti of the current selbri)}.
What is the current situation with Free Cmavo Space ?
AFAI remember, there are still free space for
ja'u ne'e bi'a ci'a zi'a zi'i zi'u te'i po'a=20
bo'V
and many cmavo that are inthe form of xV'V
and many more CV'Vi

Could you please kindly provide me with some cmavo so that I (and at least=
=20
one more jbopre) can start using them in order to implement complex verbs=
=20
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_verb#English>in Lojban ?
I guess most experimental cmavo have been used by not more than 2-3 jbopre=
=20
each.

On Friday, March 16, 2012 11:13:54 PM UTC+4, iesk wrote:
>
> On Mar 16, 6:07 pm, gleki <gleki.is.my.n...@gmail.com> wrote:=20
> > OK. At least I can express "I want to sleep" as "mi djica lo nu ri=20
> sipna"=20
> > and I have to memorise just {lonuri}, a lengthy but practical string.=
=20
>
> Actually, you can=92t, can you? See CLL, chapter 7, section 6 (I=92d link=
=20
> but the web version seems to be down while I=92m writing this). AFAIK=20
> {ri}=92s backcounting ignores {mi} (which I always thought made sense,=20
> though).=20
>
> mu'o=20
> mi'e =B7iesk=B7=20
>

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Oh, thank you for pointing it out. Indeed, {ri} doesn't count {mi}.<div>Can=
 we fix the problem by inventing a new cmavo ?</div><div><br></div><div>Ple=
ase, give me place for a new experimental cmavo that will mean {lo su'u (an=
y last sumti of the current selbri)}.</div><div>What is the current situati=
on with Free Cmavo Space ?</div><div>AFAI remember, there are still free sp=
ace for</div><div>ja'u ne'e bi'a ci'a zi'a zi'i zi'u te'i po'a&nbsp;</div><=
div>bo'V</div><div>and many cmavo that are inthe form of xV'V</div><div>and=
 many more CV'Vi</div><div><br></div><div>Could you please kindly provide m=
e with some cmavo so that I (and at least one more jbopre) can start using =
them in order to implement <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound=
_verb#English">complex verbs </a>in Lojban ?</div><div>I guess most experim=
ental cmavo have been used by not more than 2-3 jbopre each.</div><div><br>=
On Friday, March 16, 2012 11:13:54 PM UTC+4, iesk wrote:<blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left: 1ex;">On Mar 16, 6:07&nbsp;pm, gleki &lt;<a>gleki.is.=
my.n...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
<br>&gt; OK. At least I can express "I want to sleep" as "mi djica lo nu ri=
 sipna"
<br>&gt; and I have to memorise just {lonuri}, a lengthy but practical stri=
ng.
<br>
<br>Actually, you can=92t, can you? See CLL, chapter 7, section 6 (I=92d li=
nk
<br>but the web version seems to be down while I=92m writing this). AFAIK
<br>{ri}=92s backcounting ignores {mi} (which I always thought made sense,
<br>though).
<br>
<br>mu'o
<br>mi'e =B7iesk=B7
<br></blockquote></div>

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