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This list is for beginners. I recommend learning Lojban as it is before
suggesting changes, and making those suggestions on the main Lojban list.

stevo

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:12 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh, thank you for pointing it out. Indeed, {ri} doesn't count {mi}.
> Can we fix the problem by inventing a new cmavo ?
>
> Please, give me place for a new experimental cmavo that will mean {lo su'=
u
> (any last sumti of the current selbri)}.
> What is the current situation with Free Cmavo Space ?
> AFAI remember, there are still free space for
> ja'u ne'e bi'a ci'a zi'a zi'i zi'u te'i po'a
> bo'V
> and many cmavo that are inthe form of xV'V
> and many more CV'Vi
>
> Could you please kindly provide me with some cmavo so that I (and at leas=
t
> one more jbopre) can start using them in order to implement complex verbs
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_verb#English>in Lojban ?
> I guess most experimental cmavo have been used by not more than 2-3 jbopr=
e
> each.
>
> On Friday, March 16, 2012 11:13:54 PM UTC+4, iesk wrote:
>>
>> On Mar 16, 6:07 pm, gleki <gleki.is.my.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > OK. At least I can express "I want to sleep" as "mi djica lo nu ri
>> sipna"
>> > and I have to memorise just {lonuri}, a lengthy but practical string.
>>
>> Actually, you can=92t, can you? See CLL, chapter 7, section 6 (I=92d lin=
k
>> but the web version seems to be down while I=92m writing this). AFAIK
>> {ri}=92s backcounting ignores {mi} (which I always thought made sense,
>> though).
>>
>> mu'o
>> mi'e =B7iesk=B7
>>
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This list is for beginners. I recommend learning Lojban as it is before sug=
gesting changes, and making those suggestions on the main Lojban list.=A0<d=
iv><br></div><div>stevo<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 17, 2=
012 at 9:12 AM, gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.n=
ame@gmail.com">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Oh, thank you for pointing it out. Indeed, {=
ri} doesn&#39;t count {mi}.<div>Can we fix the problem by inventing a new c=
mavo ?</div>

<div><br></div><div>Please, give me place for a new experimental cmavo that=
 will mean {lo su&#39;u (any last sumti of the current selbri)}.</div><div>=
What is the current situation with Free Cmavo Space ?</div><div>AFAI rememb=
er, there are still free space for</div>

<div>ja&#39;u ne&#39;e bi&#39;a ci&#39;a zi&#39;a zi&#39;i zi&#39;u te&#39;=
i po&#39;a=A0</div><div>bo&#39;V</div><div>and many cmavo that are inthe fo=
rm of xV&#39;V</div><div>and many more CV&#39;Vi</div><div><br></div><div>

Could you please kindly provide me with some cmavo so that I (and at least =
one more jbopre) can start using them in order to implement <a href=3D"http=
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_verb#English" target=3D"_blank">complex v=
erbs </a>in Lojban ?</div>

<div>I guess most experimental cmavo have been used by not more than 2-3 jb=
opre each.</div><div><br>On Friday, March 16, 2012 11:13:54 PM UTC+4, iesk =
wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

On Mar 16, 6:07=A0pm, gleki &lt;<a>gleki.is.my.n...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote=
:
<br>&gt; OK. At least I can express &quot;I want to sleep&quot; as &quot;mi=
 djica lo nu ri sipna&quot;
<br>&gt; and I have to memorise just {lonuri}, a lengthy but practical stri=
ng.
<br>
<br>Actually, you can=92t, can you? See CLL, chapter 7, section 6 (I=92d li=
nk
<br>but the web version seems to be down while I=92m writing this). AFAIK
<br>{ri}=92s backcounting ignores {mi} (which I always thought made sense,
<br>though).
<br>
<br>mu&#39;o
<br>mi&#39;e =B7iesk=B7
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