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Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: In London in Britain - the shortest way to say
 that ?
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First, {lo ti stuzi} is a place associated with the near thing I'm
pointing. I think {lo vi stuzi} would be better.
You can attach tags to {pe} or {ne} (dependent on whether you want to
clarify which London you're talking about): {la landyn ne ne'i la
britain} (another strange thing, do you really pronounce it
"britain"?)
But I don't think {ne'i} is the best here. For me it's good for things
that have well-defined inside and outside, like a box or a building.
Maybe I'm wrong.
I think that {bu'u} would be better.

mu'o mi'e ianek

On 18 Mar, 09:02, gleki <gleki.is.my.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How should I say
> "This place is in London that is in Britain".
> I start translating as
> {lo ti stuzi ne'i la .landyn.} ... and I stop here.
>
> I can imagine
> {lo ti stuzi ne'i lo me la .lyndyn. be ne'i la .britain.} of course. But
> it's too bulky.

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