Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:51292) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1S9i3w-00013M-Jm; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:16:16 -0700 Received: by eaan10 with SMTP id n10sf5249209eaa.16 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:16:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ap/m//w0wYfMlOWnH+sCt1Xv6RRKSWig0qnyQ9W40Pc=; b=TIYXm0w+FzxkNyxklzdsA5T1/4EMCp08nyF+8EeMtVA1kBdOaZ+pViQ8K45yGQlZ2n R0GMIntclk49ohtyw+3lteDpazjIyQ8x2Hmjgvt1Cs5d7S2/TsqAq8fNHFlfjerZByDQ S0h767YkT/BllFrVUll67rG4JUkt1k5IAtuOo= Received: by 10.204.130.26 with SMTP id q26mr910748bks.18.1332184544045; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:15:44 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.45.87 with SMTP id d23ls8466349bkf.2.gmail; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.131.75 with SMTP id w11mr1239495bks.0.1332184542270; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.131.75 with SMTP id w11mr1239494bks.0.1332184542250; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bk0-f45.google.com (mail-bk0-f45.google.com [209.85.214.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cs9si18885657bkb.3.2012.03.19.12.15.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.45; Received: by mail-bk0-f45.google.com with SMTP id jg9so5635262bkc.4 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:15:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.150.75 with SMTP id x11mr4999197bkv.62.1332184542107; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.99.72 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 12:15:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <30143312.661.1331656099405.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjx8> References: <30143312.661.1331656099405.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjx8> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:15:42 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Units and Descriptions From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175ce26c68587604bb9d62a8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 4854 --0015175ce26c68587604bb9d62a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Lindar wrote: > Can someone please answer which of the following sentences make sense >> and which don't? >> > > Sure. > > >> 1. {ko'a mitre li papimu} >> > > Makes sense. X is 1.5 metres. > > >> 2. {li papimu namcu} >> > > 1.5 is a number. > > >> 3. {lo se mitre cu namcu} >> > > A number quantifying the length of an object in metres is a number. > > >> 4. {ko'a mitre lo se cacra be ko'e} >> > > X is as many metres long as Y is hours long. > > >> 5. {la'e lo se mitre cu namcu} > > > The referent of the number quantifying the length of something in metres > is a number. > (This is a false statement AFAIC.) > > Everything except this last one makes sense to me. > Not necessarily. For example, you could have a series of numbered doors, behind each of which is a (non-related) quantity of eggs. You could refer to the number of the door to obliquely refer to the number of eggs behind it. And therefore use the length of something to specify that door number. Could be done, but yeah, contrived. --gejyspa > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --0015175ce26c68587604bb9d62a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at= 12:28 PM, Lindar <lindarthebard@gmail.com> wrote:
Can someone pleas= e answer which of the following sentences make sense
and which don't= ?

Sure.
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=A0 1. {ko'a mitre li = papimu}

Makes sense. X is 1.5 metres.
<= div>=A0
=A0 2. {li papimu namc= u}

1.5 is a number.
=A0
=A0 3. {lo se mitre cu = namcu}

A number quantifying the length of a= n object in metres is a number.
=A0
=A0 4. {ko'a mitre lo se cacra be ko'e}

X is as many metres long as Y is hours long.
=A0
=A0 5. {la'e lo se mitre cu namcu}

The referent of the number quantifying the length of something in metres = is a number.
(This is a false statement AFAIC.)

Everything except this last one makes sense to me.
<= div>
=A0 Not necessarily. =A0For example, you could have a se= ries of numbered doors, behind each of which is a (non-related) quantity of= eggs. =A0You could refer to the number of the door to obliquely refer to t= he number of eggs behind it. =A0And therefore use the length of something t= o specify that door number. =A0Could be done, but yeah, contrived.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa

=A0

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