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I'm curious. Could you link to the textbook?

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:35 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK. Actually our textbook already uses lo ... ku instead of lo.
> I considered changing it to lo & cu but let it remain as it is.
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 5:30:59 PM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
>>
>> Agreed. While cu is a very versatile cmavo, and is quite frequently used
>> specifically because of this, I doubt there is a single jbopre among us =
who
>> does not think that teaching terminators is /extremely/ important,
>> /especially/ in the very beginning.
>>
>> When cu is eventually introduced, it's function is made much more clear
>> and understandable as a result, as well.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:14 AM, selpa'i <m3o@plasmatix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> You may think it's easier without ku, but it will cause problems for th=
e
>>> students later on. I strongly recommend teaching full terminators from =
the
>>> beginning on. Teach how to elide them a bit later. Trust the people her=
e who
>>> tell you to teach terminators. We have a lot of experience teaching
>>> beginners and this method has proven effective again and again.
>>>
>>> Am 21.03.2012 07:54, schrieb gleki:
>>>
>>> My point was to teach in the form of
>>> {lo broda cu brode lo brodi lo brodo be lo brodu}
>>> In this case student can learn only "lo".
>>> Otherwise they will have to learn
>>> {lo broda ku brode lo brodi ku lo brodo be lo brodu=A0[ku ku]}
>>> which is a bit more bulky and harder to understand.
>>>
>>> {lo} without looks like "a" or "the" in English.
>>> {lo ... ku} looks like a programming language which is not easy for
>>> everyone.
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:35:01 AM UTC+4, gleki wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to completely get rid of {ku} in speech ? Can we
>>>> rearrange words in extreme cases and use other cmavo like {kei} and {c=
u} ?
>>>
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