Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f61.google.com ([209.85.215.61]:61314) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SJP52-00030V-8g; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:01:26 -0700 Received: by lagv3 with SMTP id v3sf2771214lag.16 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:01:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ksPj3lBhvh8JTD3VSw+136muBXMkA+qVSwCldj/dPbU=; b=mQ1qbSSJ/yL9aE7bhseME6O67O2sQCwPwFOBHHHiiN35GAH5BhpVx7sFI/wpQDUCCq kAwM06Q8NcGys47XxQsME8XeGbnEJ41MP7GTJKDCREXAnCMysSLSTt7UZ5KwJWRWjCze kbxuq48c5bLkW/gAiBdQk2zUJhH/TEjv64yKM= Received: by 10.204.129.13 with SMTP id m13mr425360bks.10.1334494852635; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:00:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.205.134.137 with SMTP id ic9ls4573464bkc.6.gmail; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.143.143 with SMTP id v15mr754288bku.8.1334494851391; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.143.143 with SMTP id v15mr754287bku.8.1334494851356; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f178.google.com (mail-lb0-f178.google.com [209.85.217.178]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cs9si4943665bkb.3.2012.04.15.06.00.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of so.cool.ogi@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.178 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.178; Received: by lbao2 with SMTP id o2so262636lba.23 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:00:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.132.132 with SMTP id ou4mr7255965lab.26.1334494850923; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.9.8 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 06:00:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2791236.2395.1334494040957.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbuo5> References: <17782360.2297.1334489308398.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbai14> <24900218.2385.1334493463809.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbai14> <2791236.2395.1334494040957.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbuo5> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 15:00:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: problem with cmavo {zei}. Can it be mixed with {zei} rafsi? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sebastian_Fr=F6jd?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: so.cool.ogi@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of so.cool.ogi@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=so.cool.ogi@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043085e28b3c0d04bdb74b6c X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 5192 --f46d043085e28b3c0d04bdb74b6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or what about zeicpa? To obtain something illegal (maybe fencing/handling stolen goods ) could be a useful concept. mu'omi'e jongausib Den 15 april 2012 14:47 skrev ianek : > It's only possible when there are two rafsi and the second is CCV-form. > > http://dag.github.com/cll/4/11/ > If there are more than two words in the tanru, put an =93r=94-hyphen (or = an > =93n=94-hyphen) after the first rafsi if it is CVV-form. If there are exa= ctly > two words, then put an =93r=94-hyphen (or an =93n=94-hyphen) between the = two rafsi > if the first rafsi is CVV-form, unless the second rafsi is CCV-form (for > example, =93saicli=94 requires no hyphen). > > Likewise, "zeicli" doesn't require a hyphen. > > mu'o mi'e ianek > > > On Sunday, April 15, 2012 2:37:43 PM UTC+2, gleki wrote: >> >> Can anybody give an example with {zei} rafsi in first position of a lujv= o >> and not followed by any buffer consonant like *r *? >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/rzsUCfqFVmUJ. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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mu'omi'e jo= ngausib

Den 15 april 2012 14:47 skrev ianek <janek37@gmail.com>= ;:
It's only possible when there are two rafsi and the second is CCV-form.=

If there are more than= two words in the tanru, put an =93r=94-hyphen (or an =93n=94-hyphen) after= the first rafsi if it is CVV-form. If there are exactly two words, then pu= t an =93r=94-hyphen (or an =93n=94-hyphen) between the two rafsi if the fir= st rafsi is CVV-form, unless the second rafsi is CCV-form (for example, =93= saicli=94 requires no hyphen).

Likewise, "zeicli" doesn't require a hyph= en.

mu'o mi'e ianek
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On Sunday, April 15, 2012 2:= 37:43 PM UTC+2, gleki wrote:
Can anybody give an example with {zei} rafsi in first position of a lujvo a= nd not followed by any buffer consonant like r ?

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