Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:49355) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SFtgr-00036j-3h; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:54:03 -0700 Received: by bkcjg9 with SMTP id jg9sf1080047bkc.16 for ; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:53:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=gzuMG58T31oMQoCxlIGKODfYucs2goswVDmV9jxhjY0=; b=oyRdhLbc9MDVVe+Sri70vFOMQxS8cPB+Re2ofqNDDETpqRm7eDjMj/UZ1YBt48Swae aIgp1fhKq5rs2iUEiwhRPSfhhfyhxfUqs+/cmlvPPHVh6Qhc0lnpKjE4CaFjh9Ofeblb /3GtwAI1fNvEYWYw/aCyjQDfE3mrugKLltlHE= Received: by 10.204.130.85 with SMTP id r21mr354644bks.0.1333659200794; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:53:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.136.212 with SMTP id s20ls2390575bkt.2.gmail; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.156.202 with SMTP id y10mr429392bkw.1.1333659199944; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.156.202 with SMTP id y10mr429391bkw.1.1333659199918; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bk0-f42.google.com (mail-bk0-f42.google.com [209.85.214.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l16si5865656bky.2.2012.04.05.13.53.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.42; Received: by bkcje9 with SMTP id je9so3391776bkc.1 for ; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:53:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.145.81 with SMTP id c17mr2057804bkv.39.1333659199745; Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.63.200 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Apr 2012 13:53:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4F7ACB54.5060007@plasmatix.com> <29999114.1425.1333456186758.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yncc6> <4F7AF8D7.7030004@plasmatix.com> <20202981.459.1333529272343.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbdn7> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:53:19 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Lojban Lessons Livestream tonight! From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151758f8beda305804bcf4baa3 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 10510 --00151758f8beda305804bcf4baa3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hmmm... maybe I was mistaken, but I don't want to have to relisten to all 107 minutes. If so, I apologize. However, you did definitely mispronounce "Loglan", which has the same vowelization as lojban. Nice presentation, btw. One tip, though, you might want to use written notes next time.. there was a lot of times when you appeared toasted, but probably because it was so late at night. Like when you kept going "kuh-tuka, kuh-tuka, so ummm.. yeah" No problems about when you were asked questions, because then you had to think on your feet, but at other times, you should really know what you you are going to say. (Really would be also nice if your vocabulary was better, especially with the words you yourself brought up. It makes it seem like it's really NOT easy to learn....) But, you know, not like I'm actually putting my money where my mouth is, so I can't critique you TOO heavily :-) Looking forward to listening to the rest, when I have more time. --gejyspa On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Jameson Orndorff wrote: > I'm sorry, at what point do I pronounce it like this? I always pronounce > it correctly, unless doing it in jest. > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > >> Nice, but if you are going to teachlojban audially, you need to make >> sure you pronounce the name of the language properly. Just like the people >> at conlangery (and for that matter, many others), you are pronouncing it as >> if it rhymes with the English "can". It does not. It rhymes with "con". >> >> --gejyspa >> >> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:47 AM, banseljaj wrote: >> >>> /me missed it too. ;-; >>> Dammit kribacr! >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 6:19:19 PM UTC+5, Miles Forster wrote: >>>> >>>> Am 03.04.2012 14:29, schrieb gleki: >>>> > Me too ! Where can I watch the record? >>>> > >>>> >>>> Just click the twitch.tv link he provided (http://twitch.tv/lojbo) and >>>> you'll find two videos there. >>>> It's a pity the chat doesn't get recorded as well. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> .i da xamgu ganse fi no na'ebo lo risna >>>> .i lo vajrai cu nonselji'u lo kanla >>>> >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/eubQXW4u3LoJ. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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=A0 Hmmm... maybe I was mistaken, but I don't want to = have to relisten =A0to all 107 minutes. =A0If so, I apologize. =A0 However,= you did definitely mispronounce "Loglan", which has the same vow= elization as lojban.=A0

=A0 Nice presentation, btw. One tip, though, you might want = to use written notes next time.. there was a lot of times when you appeared= toasted, but probably because it was so late at night. =A0Like when you ke= pt going "kuh-tuka, kuh-tuka, so ummm.. yeah" No problems about w= hen you were asked questions, because then you had to think on your feet, b= ut at other times, you should really know what you you are going to say. = =A0(Really would be also nice if your vocabulary was better, especially wit= h the words you yourself brought up. =A0It makes it seem like it's real= ly NOT easy to learn....)

=A0 But, you know, not like I'm actually putting my= money where my mouth is, so I can't critique you TOO heavily :-)
=

=A0 Looking forward to listening to the rest, when I ha= ve more time.
=A0
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Jameson Orndorff <jtorndorff@gmail.com= > wrote:
I'm sorry, at what point do I pronounce = it like this? I always pronounce it correctly, unless doing it in jest.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:1= 5 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
=A0 Nice, but if you are going to teachlojban audially, you need to make = sure you pronounce the name of the language properly. =A0Just like the peop= le at conlangery (and for that matter, many others), you are pronouncing it= as if it rhymes with the English "can". =A0It does not. =A0It rh= ymes with "con".

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa

On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:47 AM, banseljaj <ali.sajid.imami@gmail.com> wrote:
/me missed it too. ;-;
Dammit kribacr!

On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 6:19:19 PM UTC+5, Miles Forster wrote:<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border= -left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Am 03.04.2012 14:29, schrieb gleki:
> Me too ! Where can I watch the = record?
>

Just click the twitch.tv link he provided (http://twitch.tv/lojbo) and
you'll find two videos there.
It's a pity the chat doesn't g= et recorded as well.

--
.i da xamgu ganse fi no na'ebo lo ris= na
.i lo vajrai cu nonselji'u lo kanla

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