Received: from mail-fa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:33595) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SGAaX-0001Du-PD; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:56:38 -0700 Received: by fabs1 with SMTP id s1sf1475934fab.16 for ; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:56:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=DME1nb9tbh9C+x74+I/CA2NpsIGGra+8s+coCFhY42w=; b=OjDdFSpnRJ8b4C4kHuDRHKDHQK10zn5kpR/ZAK+aYVcntLs3pHbAphW+/iF3DUA6Kd vgwGAAazQMxGlu8agGcxc3UHd9ry/Fef14S6vFZZXZDw5NiwCUnzcWBiOEDUnCVJ8OHe kN65opfCrGNwrNFf7gd24gWR94JUKAUfrsJYw= Received: by 10.204.154.67 with SMTP id n3mr409498bkw.2.1333724158314; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:55:58 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.128.220 with SMTP id l28ls2950652bks.8.gmail; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.119.5 with SMTP id fs5mr647891bkc.7.1333724156497; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.119.5 with SMTP id fs5mr647890bkc.7.1333724156471; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8si8786266bka.1.2012.04.06.07.55.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.53; Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4so2387153bkw.40 for ; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:55:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.136.198 with SMTP id s6mr3032306bkt.129.1333724156304; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 07:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.63.200 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Apr 2012 07:55:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4F7ACB54.5060007@plasmatix.com> <29999114.1425.1333456186758.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yncc6> <4F7AF8D7.7030004@plasmatix.com> <20202981.459.1333529272343.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbdn7> <6370895.28.1333663229681.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynww4> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 10:55:56 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Lojban Lessons Livestream tonight! From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cac78909dcd04bd03da7e X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 6703 --0015175cac78909dcd04bd03da7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That is VERY weird, since it breaks the isomorphism he himself created. (And I learned the language back in '75, before the introduction of "h" into the language, and I never pronounced it as anything other than LOHG-lahn), although I admit I have never heard JCB say it. Oh, another aside to Jameson -- you assert in your lesson hyperbolically that no one uses mi'a, mi'o, ma'a and do'o. Not true. While I don't use do'o very much, I most certainly the other three a LOT. --gejyspa On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:14 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > I heard JCB himself say "LOG-luhn" when I phoned him once. It really took > me by surprise because I'd always said it and heard it in my head as > "Log-lan", sounding almost like "Log" + "land". > > stevo > > On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Lindar wrote: > >> However, you did definitely mispronounce "Loglan", which has the same >>> vowelization as lojban. >>> >> >> Even so, the name is a portmanteau of "logical language". 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=A0 That is VERY weird, since it breaks the isomorphism he= himself created. =A0(And I learned the language back in '75, before th= e introduction of "h" into the language, and I never pronounced i= t as anything other than LOHG-lahn),=A0although=A0I admit I have never hear= d JCB say it.

=A0 Oh, another aside to Jameson -- you assert in your lesso= n hyperbolically that no one uses mi'a, mi'o, ma'a and do'o= . =A0Not true. =A0While I =A0don't use do'o very much, I most certa= inly the other three a LOT.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa


On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 7:14 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
I heard JCB himself say "LOG-luhn"= when I phoned him once. It really took me by surprise because I'd alwa= ys said it and heard it in my head as "Log-lan", sounding almost = like "Log" + "land".=A0

stevo

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Lindar <lindarthebard@gmai= l.com> wrote:
However, you = did definitely mispronounce "Loglan", which has the same voweliza= tion as lojban.=A0

Even so, the name is a portmanteau o= f "logical language". I see no issue with saying "loglan&quo= t; like wood local-network.=A0

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