Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:55857) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SGP84-00056x-IE; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 23:28:09 -0700 Received: by qcsq5 with SMTP id q5sf2553745qcs.16 for ; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 23:28:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Ic6DqRiv2v9LXQfL9wOVMyQByg2Qf1A3mwNgZrAb77U=; b=Q/2M/cKk0axuL4X2rXVlKfSIndiPBjqPGsToeyrDetxAkA6pCLwUdxbpBxqE0+Qfur WknzxyjgA7/Sq3duWeWbD5hx72h2ocXo5YhJ3AOOCFmH6L7B7JnxzQ4uNIYUbWpzaQaV qRXJ0lI/CsO0uaIB0BxYxPi6VpowbCEcL9iGA= Received: by 10.52.33.47 with SMTP id o15mr33705vdi.9.1333780055756; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 23:27:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.157.66 with SMTP id a2ls506778vcx.8.gmail; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 23:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.23.226 with SMTP id p2mr33365vdf.2.1333780054676; Fri, 06 Apr 2012 23:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 23:27:33 -0700 (PDT) From: gleki To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <8349353.1748.1333780053998.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbug19> In-Reply-To: <759702.1608.1333771279479.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynmc17> References: <6323635.529.1333705503307.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynne15> <759702.1608.1333771279479.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynmc17> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: What is the shortest way to say "It's 5 miles ahead" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1747_30137276.1333780053997" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 5530 ------=_Part_1747_30137276.1333780053997 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Saturday, April 7, 2012 8:01:19 AM UTC+4, Lindar wrote: > > > Saying {lo mu minli} is like "some unspecified number of five of some > unspecified (though probably one) miles which may or may not be contiguous > and by context probably are not or I would have just said so explicitly". > Don't be lazy. <3 > > Optionally, perhaps: > > .i korbi lo minli be li mu lo'o be'o ku ca'uku > "It's at the edge of five miles, straight." > > It's not precise. Nothing is said about the distance between here and there. May be I'm in the middle of of that pathway. So that thing will be only 2.5 miles away ahead. > ...or some permutation thereof. > > Perhaps?: > > .i crane do seji'e ja sela'u ja semau lo minli be li mu > "It's straight in front of you, up to/for/after five miles." > > Again I need to explicitly say that the distance should be counted from where I'm standing. .i ko ca'u klama seji'e lo minli be li mu "Go straight up to five miles." .i ko ca'u klama sela'u lo minli be li mu "G straight for five miles." Much better. Although I never wanted to visit that place. Just pointing out that it's 5 miles away. I got one more solution. {fe lo crane be mi ku pluta fi ti fa lo minli be li mu sa .i fe lo crane ku se pluta lo minli be li mu} the second sentence may be good for conversational speech. za'a no sumti in {farna} can be measured in miles. As for {ve klama} I'm not sure whether it's the straight line between {se klama} and {te klama}. The route might be curved and can take more than just 5 miles to reach (which is the distance between se klama and te klama). As for {pluta} I'm afraid that it's the synonym of {ve klama}. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/KqoI2agMnqQJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_1747_30137276.1333780053997 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Saturday, April 7, 2012 8:01:19 AM UTC+4, Lindar wrote:

Saying {lo mu = minli} is like "some unspecified number of five of some unspecified (though= probably one) miles which may or may not be contiguous and by context prob= ably are not or I would have just said so explicitly". Don't be lazy. <3=

Optionally, perhaps:

.i = korbi lo minli be li mu lo'o be'o ku ca'uku
"It's at the edge of = five miles, straight."


It's not precise. Nothing is said about  the distance between h= ere and there. May be I'm in the middle of of that pathway. So that thing w= ill be only 2.5 miles away ahead.
...or some permutation thereof.
Perhaps?:

.i crane do seji'e ja sela'u= ja semau lo minli be li mu
"It's straight in front of you, up to= /for/after five miles."

Again I= need to explicitly say that the distance should be counted from where I'm = standing.

.i ko ca'u klama seji'e lo minli be li mu
"Go s= traight up to five miles."
.i ko ca'u klama sela'u lo minli be li mu
"G straight for five miles."

<= div>Much better. Although I never wanted to visit that place. Just pointing= out that it's 5 miles away.

I got one more soluti= on.

{fe lo crane be mi ku pluta fi ti fa lo m= inli be li mu
sa .i
fe lo crane ku se pluta lo minli be= li mu}

the second sentence may be good &nbs= p;for conversational speech.

za'a no sumti in {far= na}  can be measured in miles.
As for {ve klama} I'm not sur= e whether it's the straight line between {se klama} and {te klama}. The rou= te might be curved and can take more than just 5 miles to reach (which is t= he distance between se klama and te klama).
As for {pluta} I'm af= raid that it's the synonym of {ve klama}. 

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