Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:63713) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SGQX9-0006B4-4e; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:58:10 -0700 Received: by dado14 with SMTP id o14sf2618153dad.16 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:57:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=N7P/FdIPauZgthZRyCBW1lK4TPD9F7TkZQmjB6RNBpY=; b=CKkuXVo4Xd9oihx6Db6BH0y7sil6Rat+g6+oCrfOi7FvWn/oWmQ1fI0BarIl6ulH2d MJyOoRLN1CUT0hDU/kaNfysimu3lpKm5/2e04M0wUEjK9SrX5lUe6qDdOA5j0GGqwnMW kl0+fb5Gsb6dX40FZaqAC7qwkU93eOQpDO+xE= Received: by 10.52.75.74 with SMTP id a10mr40900vdw.8.1333785452997; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:57:32 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.108.7 with SMTP id d7ls537002vcp.4.gmail; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.92.169 with SMTP id cn9mr41502vdb.14.1333785452547; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 00:57:31 -0700 (PDT) From: ianek To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <2368974.1888.1333785451723.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbtv42> In-Reply-To: <759702.1608.1333771279479.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynmc17> References: <6323635.529.1333705503307.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynne15> <759702.1608.1333771279479.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynmc17> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: What is the shortest way to say "It's 5 miles ahead" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: janek37@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of janek37@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=janek37@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1887_3302278.1333785451722" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 3353 ------=_Part_1887_3302278.1333785451722 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Saturday, April 7, 2012 6:01:19 AM UTC+2, Lindar wrote: > > .i ko ca'u klama seji'e lo minli be li mu > "Go straight up to five miles." > .i ko ca'u klama sela'u lo minli be li mu > "G straight for five miles." > > Saying {lo mu minli} is like "some unspecified number of five of some > unspecified (though probably one) miles which may or may not be contiguous > and by context probably are not or I would have just said so explicitly". > Don't be lazy. <3 > According to http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Section%3A+gadri {lo PA broda} means {zo'e noi ke'a broda gi'e zilkancu li PA lo broda}. How is it "some unspecified number of PA broda"? Maybe your version is logical, but not practical. You usually don't talk about some unspecified number of five cows, so making it a default option is weird. mu'o mi'e ianek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/cz95VMpjTV8J. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_1887_3302278.1333785451722 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Saturday, April 7, 2012 6:01:19 AM UTC+2, Lindar wrote:.i ko ca'u klama seji'e lo minli be li = mu
"Go straight up to five miles."
.i ko ca'u klama sela'u lo m= inli be li mu
"G straight for five miles."

Saying {lo mu minli} is like "some unspecified number of five of some un= specified (though probably one) miles which may or may not be contiguous an= d by context probably are not or I would have just said so explicitly". Don= 't be lazy. <3

According to&= nbsp;http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DBPFK+Section%3A+gadri=
{lo PA broda} means {zo'e noi ke'a broda gi'e zilkancu li PA lo = broda}.
How is it "some unspecified number of PA broda"?

Maybe your version is logical, but not practical. You = usually don't talk about some unspecified number of five cows, so making it= a default option is weird.

mu'o mi'e ianek

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