Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:43663) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SGXT8-0001bf-6T; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 08:22:30 -0700 Received: by obbeh20 with SMTP id eh20sf3076928obb.16 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 08:22:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=nNF3o1Q6FvuvQDLT7X05/BPlr9QRKYvHpb1zQGzrmm0=; b=pxOTgZ2lDIf1T9DAljksn6ebXYfxiVE+Zv4w2qsFCSiewCV+1dD7L54pzO5iCPHj9R 9EuDKraYHYKiuSNy3GLn0YnzGFsM3y+bahGNYdiVF2lJynYESq+7wHhbbBcQtyhybVa0 PHbe9gQ1HkGpsvl7G8QG4yka3UGkKcvzilXsY= Received: by 10.50.154.130 with SMTP id vo2mr332630igb.1.1333812112923; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 08:21:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.27.25 with SMTP id g25ls2441996ibc.1.gmail; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 08:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.169.67 with SMTP id a3mr1079516icz.8.1333812111809; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 08:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.169.67 with SMTP id a3mr1079515icz.8.1333812111795; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 08:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f176.google.com (mail-ob0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id xn7si146035igb.1.2012.04.07.08.21.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 07 Apr 2012 08:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.176; Received: by obbuo19 with SMTP id uo19so4352081obb.7 for ; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 08:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.18.163 with SMTP id x3mr2132718oed.64.1333812111489; Sat, 07 Apr 2012 08:21:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.40.198 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Apr 2012 08:21:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <6323635.529.1333705503307.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynne15> From: Luke Bergen Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 11:21:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] What is the shortest way to say "It's 5 miles ahead" To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f923fba1a3ab204bd1855cf X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 5431 --e89a8f923fba1a3ab204bd1855cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I kind of wonder about this when I see one of these "how do I say X in lojban?" threads. I mean, "how do you say {lo te klama cu mipri} in English"? To put it another way, to translate a sentence directly is almost always going to result in a longer sentence (and often times the result wouldn't feel very natural anyway). I think the more interesting question is "what would you say in situation X?". i.e. "How do you say 'SHIT!' in lojban?" -> "What would you say in lojban if you hit your finger with a hammer and wanted to express frustration, anger, and physical anguish?". So, back on topic, if I was on the sidewalk and somebody pulled over and asked me {doi pendos ma stuzi lo tersla} (and the event was 5 miles ahead), I would probably say something like: di'a klama va lo mu minli (though I can never remember how you're *really* supposed to do distance so {va} probably isn't quite right.) 2012/4/7 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 6:45 AM, gleki wrote: > > My suggestion is {ta crane lo mu minli ku mi} > > but it's not precise. > > You need to combine "ta crane mi" and "ta sepli mi lo minli be li mu". > > You could create the lujvo "crasei": "ta crasei mi lo minli be li mu". > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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I kind of wonder about this when I see one of these "how do I say= X in lojban?" threads.

I mean, "how do = you say {lo te klama cu mipri} in English"?

To put it another way, to translate a sentence directly= is almost always going to result in a longer sentence (and often times the= result wouldn't feel very natural anyway).

I think the more interesting question is "what would you say in situat= ion X?".

i.e. =A0"How do you say 'SHIT!' in lojban?= " =A0-> =A0"What would you say in lojban if you hit your finge= r with a hammer and wanted to express frustration, anger, and physical angu= ish?".

So, back on topic, if I was on the sidewalk and somebod= y pulled over and asked me {doi pendos ma stuzi lo tersla} (and the event w= as 5 miles ahead), I would probably say something like:
di'a = klama va lo mu minli
(though I can never remember how you're really=A0supposed t= o do distance so {va} probably isn't quite right.)

2012/4/7 Jorge Llamb=EDas = <jjllambias@gm= ail.com>
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 6:45 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrot= e:
> My suggestion is {ta crane lo mu minli ku mi}
> but it's not precise.

You need to combine "ta crane mi" and "ta sepli mi lo = minli be li mu".

You could create the lujvo "crasei": "ta crasei mi lo minli = be li mu".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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