Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:57540) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SHdgV-0007Jl-2S; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:12:47 -0700 Received: by obbeh20 with SMTP id eh20sf5940298obb.16 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:12:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=iq5Db0XTh7MCVHPHsgqXPFcJWXCdvdUSFgs8I/YzFt4=; b=CV21xLo4Y8l2XuAPjY2Jor/huJvvUsb5yonXhHelJHJYRQ3NIbQALrrSPsBjh6qIsF OEl3FHNdtNMfTJwLDc+bNZtl+UJh9VIIKbFU7rsYfp0LnLKyJzEomzv2FSQ/iGFbRfpC qecw1A5EffA7nUP+YPndsH4/4TGJIr93NSTmE= Received: by 10.68.136.106 with SMTP id pz10mr1849216pbb.16.1334074335576; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:12:15 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.230.164 with SMTP id sz4ls476031pbc.2.gmail; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.130.73 with SMTP id oc9mr2545409pbb.20.1334074334427; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:12:13 -0700 (PDT) From: gleki To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <15948025.380.1334074333546.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbcsi10> Subject: [lojban-beginners] completeness of actions is not defined in most gismu MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_379_20314886.1334074333545" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1857 ------=_Part_379_20314886.1334074333545 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As it's usually not defined in English words. Let's take {jgari}. Is it "I grasped something" or "I was continuously holding something"? Although *ca'o* and *mo'u* I don't understand their default meaning without extra event contours. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/j7hvA-lAD44J. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_379_20314886.1334074333545 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As it's usually not defined in English words.
Let's take {jgari}. Is it= "I grasped something" or "I was continuously holding something"?
Although ca'o and mo'u I don't understand their default= meaning without extra event contours.

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