Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:62272) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SJNrl-0002Vk-4S; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:43:38 -0700 Received: by bkcjg9 with SMTP id jg9sf2741349bkc.16 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:43:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=lywoi9jJLu+Sr+Ok2vE2ELMPJKvuAfaEvrIWjeHtLmg=; b=BCVcoN6dF35txnJJlfrv59+b5ErsWoAZzsPUk8CzcpmmBX6NzrfbW/sZyqrOSbVPK3 xoHwtDufX6GDLnQQRGpwzq2ihRIlPpUqfWNAHEueCQbgMZf4SiwoHCb7qebKCG0akEAR Cjs/6xNYO4JQn+nWrCF06MPX2LxeJBWF3yZc8= Received: by 10.204.152.145 with SMTP id g17mr414804bkw.11.1334490186114; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:43:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.205.121.2 with SMTP id ga2ls4535340bkc.1.gmail; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.156.202 with SMTP id y10mr740298bkw.1.1334490185378; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.156.202 with SMTP id y10mr740297bkw.1.1334490185355; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l16si4732808bky.2.2012.04.15.04.43.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.172; Received: by lbbgf14 with SMTP id gf14so1418594lbb.31 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:43:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.29.40 with SMTP id g8mr3454762lbh.39.1334490184902; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.44.129 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:43:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <17782360.2297.1334489308398.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbai14> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 05:43:04 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] problem with cmavo {zei}. Can it be mixed with {zei} rafsi? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040167eb6d675704bdb635a7 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 5516 --f46d040167eb6d675704bdb635a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 *zekri On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > "zeipagbu" can't be a lujvo. It will /always/ break into "zei pagbu", > because a lujvo must have a consonant cluster within the first 5 letters. > "zeipagbu" doesn't have a cluster until the 6th letter. In order to make a > lujvo of "zekri pagbu", you have to use the /other/ rafsi of xekri, "zer". > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:28 AM, gleki wrote: > >> Look at this example from jbovlaste. >> >> simfoni zei pagbu - p1 is a movement of symphony number k3 in key k4 >> composed by k5. >> >> I wonder whether in spoken pauseless speech >> it can be mixed with >> simfoni zeipagbu - which can be intrepreted as "symphonical crime-part". >> >> Do you have any explanation or solution? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/g1BDx3HzaAwJ. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --f46d040167eb6d675704bdb635a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *zekri

On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:42 AM, J= onathan Jones <ey= eonus@gmail.com> wrote:
"zeipagbu" can't be a lujvo. It will /always/ break into &quo= t;zei pagbu", because a lujvo must have a consonant cluster within the= first 5 letters. "zeipagbu" doesn't have a cluster until the= 6th letter. In order to make a lujvo of "zekri pagbu", you have = to use the /other/ rafsi of xekri, "zer".


On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 5:28 AM, gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
Look at this example from jbovlaste.

simfoni zei pagbu -= =A0p1 is a movement of symphony number k3 in key k4 composed by k5.

I wonder whether in spoken pauseless speech
it can be mixed with=A0
simfoni zeipagbu=A0 - which can be intrep= reted as "symphonical crime-part".

D= o you have any explanation or solution?

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.i.e'ucai ko cmim= a lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
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.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. m= i patfu do zo'o
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