Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:50588) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SJOrw-0002t2-0D; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 05:47:56 -0700 Received: by yhkk25 with SMTP id k25sf4442391yhk.16 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 05:47:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Bv6bBl5+usldehtx9jpnVtM+ipY/XoHEiGs2Bc10eqI=; b=ExGiIzjReLKLjABm8Wx6uCyhcBTCYncQ0t+73ktVqn14KnsJcF9MoO1OxT2NaN8p27 w8svyys/zE5k+DsC0U8jQkNWvFGFhTf+xttNCYStSB81Zrplbb6ghM2fYpN58pn4kEfk cud3Z2iN1yqQtgaoYMECkfzzMpgv8ZQ0dBdA8= Received: by 10.52.72.72 with SMTP id b8mr532540vdv.19.1334494041690; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 05:47:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.222.200 with SMTP id ih8ls2111200vcb.5.gmail; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 05:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.92.169 with SMTP id cn9mr520608vdb.14.1334494041279; Sun, 15 Apr 2012 05:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 05:47:20 -0700 (PDT) From: ianek To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <2791236.2395.1334494040957.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbuo5> In-Reply-To: <24900218.2385.1334493463809.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbai14> References: <17782360.2297.1334489308398.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbai14> <24900218.2385.1334493463809.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbai14> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: problem with cmavo {zei}. Can it be mixed with {zei} rafsi? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: janek37@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of janek37@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=janek37@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2394_5278795.1334494040956" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 3125 ------=_Part_2394_5278795.1334494040956 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's only possible when there are two rafsi and the second is CCV-form. http://dag.github.com/cll/4/11/ If there are more than two words in the tanru, put an =93r=94-hyphen (or an= =20 =93n=94-hyphen) after the first rafsi if it is CVV-form. If there are exact= ly=20 two words, then put an =93r=94-hyphen (or an =93n=94-hyphen) between the tw= o rafsi=20 if the first rafsi is CVV-form, unless the second rafsi is CCV-form (for=20 example, =93saicli=94 requires no hyphen). Likewise, "zeicli" doesn't require a hyphen. mu'o mi'e ianek On Sunday, April 15, 2012 2:37:43 PM UTC+2, gleki wrote: > > Can anybody give an example with {zei} rafsi in first position of a lujvo= =20 > and not followed by any buffer consonant like *r *? > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban-beginners/-/rzsUCfqFVmUJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. ------=_Part_2394_5278795.1334494040956 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's only possible when there are two rafsi and the second is CCV-form.
http://dag.github.com/cll/4/11/
If there are more= than two words in the tanru, put an =93r=94-hyphen (or an =93n=94-hyphen) = after the first rafsi if it is CVV-form. If there are exactly two words, th= en put an =93r=94-hyphen (or an =93n=94-hyphen) between the two rafsi if th= e first rafsi is CVV-form, unless the second rafsi is CCV-form (for example= , =93saicli=94 requires no hyphen).

Likewise, "zei= cli" doesn't require a hyphen.

mu'o mi'e ianek
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On Sunday, April 15, 2012 2:37:43 PM UTC+2, gleki w= rote:
Can anybody give an examp= le with {zei} rafsi in first position of a lujvo and not followed by any bu= ffer consonant like r ?

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