Received: from mail-vb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:35500) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SLz9U-0006BO-PY; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:56:45 -0700 Received: by vbbfd1 with SMTP id fd1sf12301254vbb.16 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:56:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=kbjIhbuk9ODdHbmYg6apwzS959cYsrJ5hoIBLaDAtHk=; b=IlvR4iFNUSQ2b1TPF6QGSSSoEFR2mShmXWUkbLp6LLaeR6/a7XFdtm5il5mcxm4I3I S5s8q+Qdp6fCVe3WAiz+Wri7C1/vBZETb+qqmHVVRw7OmExrnJXVu+8g8GL0A6HYtH5A rMSHVUtqOp+xKokuz5c7WhtwWKksO4U8cCP6M= Received: by 10.236.77.9 with SMTP id c9mr1481347yhe.2.1335110194005; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:56:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.73.226 with SMTP id v62ls7306800yhd.7.gmail; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.125.170 with SMTP id z30mr15958572yhh.4.1335110192479; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.125.170 with SMTP id z30mr15958571yhh.4.1335110192468; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id k54si12029446yhh.5.2012.04.22.08.56.32; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from darner.ixazon.lan (darner.ixazon.lan [192.168.7.5]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E4411407E for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:56:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] .isemu'ibo Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:56:29 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (DragonFly/3.1-DEVELOPMENT; KDE/4.5.5; i386; ; ) References: <15902500.314.1335102944101.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynmm10> In-Reply-To: <15902500.314.1335102944101.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynmm10> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201204221156.29415.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1401 On Sunday, April 22, 2012 09:55:44 =C1lvaro Vallejo wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Could anyone, please, help me with the grammar of ".isemu'ibo"? I know i= t > means "so", but I don't know if the following interpretation is right: >=20 > mu'i =3D"because of reason", from mukti =3Dmotive. > "semu'i" would mean "the action motivated by something". > "bo" is a short scope link, linking to what comes next... > then, the literal translation/interpretation would be "the action motivat= ed > by the preceding sentence is what follows:" "mu'i" is "because of motive..."; "semu'i" is "with motivated action...". "= bo"=20 is there to keep "semu'i", which normally is a preposition, from claiming t= he=20 sentence's subject as its object. It has the side effect of making three or= =20 more sentences connected by ".ibo" group from right to left. I'm not= =20 sure how to get around that. You got the right idea. Pierre --=20 When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.