Received: from mail-qa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]:46341) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SM6Wz-0008EI-Pa; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:49:30 -0700 Received: by qadz32 with SMTP id z32sf3381369qad.16 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:49:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=6BaJB1x7YjbboISbAruXQgI3khlCM6iuF/pJ6/ErPxA=; b=pgqi0xMIFaGuYDGCzv2TjbJZZNPyP6YngcCzE5y9Q+DnyYyrpb2YHGuYspmAg0Dbxn 42K2ocEeZ2a+Q0QreRSYySnmG65ASJFtlzohIgGipTMqXHOzexMjkMVx0gCMRU25Rie/ nRW2In6iE+685J37NSSq+WlwNmOMHToAZAyTM= Received: by 10.236.115.169 with SMTP id e29mr1547982yhh.16.1335138558764; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:49:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.87.163 with SMTP id y23ls8000171yhe.9.gmail; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.170.135 with SMTP id p7mr1577241yhl.19.1335138557439; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:49:16 -0700 (PDT) From: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=81lvaro_Vallejo?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <32737447.1577.1335138556894.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yntt13> In-Reply-To: <201204221156.29415.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <15902500.314.1335102944101.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynmm10> <201204221156.29415.phma@phma.optus.nu> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] .isemu'ibo MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: avallejor@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of avallejor@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=avallejor@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1576_27638884.1335138556893" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 4019 ------=_Part_1576_27638884.1335138556893 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Than you very much! On Sunday, April 22, 2012 10:56:29 AM UTC-5, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Sunday, April 22, 2012 09:55:44 =EF=BF=BDlvaro Vallejo wrote: > > Hi, > >=20 > > Could anyone, please, help me with the grammar of ".isemu'ibo"? I know= =20 > it > > means "so", but I don't know if the following interpretation is right: > >=20 > > mu'i =3D"because of reason", from mukti =3Dmotive. > > "semu'i" would mean "the action motivated by something". > > "bo" is a short scope link, linking to what comes next... > > then, the literal translation/interpretation would be "the action=20 > motivated > > by the preceding sentence is what follows:" > > "mu'i" is "because of motive..."; "semu'i" is "with motivated action...".= =20 > "bo"=20 > is there to keep "semu'i", which normally is a preposition, from claiming= =20 > the=20 > sentence's subject as its object. It has the side effect of making three= =20 > or=20 > more sentences connected by ".ibo" group from right to left. I'm no= t=20 > sure how to get around that. You got the right idea. > > Pierre > --=20 > When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. > J=EF=BF=BD n=EF=BF=BDo percebe nada, j=EF=BF=BD n=EF=BF=BDo percebe nada. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban-beginners/-/XGGuOGdNgzcJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. ------=_Part_1576_27638884.1335138556893 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Than you very much!

On Sunday, April 22, 2012 10:56:29 AM UTC-5, Pie= rre Abbat wrote:
On Sunday, Apr= il 22, 2012 09:55:44 =EF=BF=BDlvaro Vallejo wrote:
> Hi,
>
= > Could anyone, please, help me with the grammar of ".isemu'ibo"?  = I know it
> means "so", but I don't know if the following interpretat= ion is right:
>
> mu'i =3D"because of reason", from mukti =3Dm= otive.
> "semu'i" would mean "the action motivated by something".
= > "bo" is a short scope link, linking to what comes next...
> then= , the literal translation/interpretation would be "the action motivated
= > by the preceding sentence is what follows:"

"mu'i" is "because of mo= tive..."; "semu'i" is "with motivated action...". "bo"
is there to keep= "semu'i", which normally is a preposition, from claiming the
sentence'= s subject as its object. It has the side effect of making three or
more= sentences connected by ".i<prep>bo" group from right to left. I'm no= t
sure how to get around that. You got the right idea.

Pierre
= --
When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
J=EF=BF=BD= n=EF=BF=BDo percebe nada, j=EF=BF=BD n=EF=BF=BDo percebe nada.

<= /p>

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