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On Saturday, April 28, 2012 17:33:41 Robert Slaughter wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-04-28 at 22:10 +0100, tijlan wrote:
> > What is the pointability of, say, "2012 U.S. presidential election"?
> > Can a Californian refer to it by "ti"? Would that make as much sense
> > as a Mexican's "ta" or a Kazakh's "tu"?
> > 
> > mu'o
> 
> I've always taken 'ti' to mean in its event-form things like "the voting
> here today". And for me 'ta' and 'tu' are always spacial displacement,
> never temporal.

I think "ta" and "tu" can indicate temporal displacement. We have "vi, va, vu" 
for spatial displacement and "zi, za, zu" for temporal displacement as tense 
markers, but there's no temporal counterpart to "ti, ta, tu".

As to elections, I'd refer to one this year in the US as "ti", one in Mexico 
and one a few years away (in either direction) in the US both as "ta", and one 
in Kazakhstan and one a century ago both as "tu". If, though, I were speaking 
to a Kazakh about a current election in Kazakhstan, I'd call it "ta".

Pierre
-- 
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.

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