On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Jonathan= Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

It's not /a/ word, it's three.

se switched the x1 and the x2= , te switches the x1 and the xe

se switches ..= .. and the x3

I really need to proofread better.
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so, perform each switch i= n sequence:

ko'a cpedu ko'e ko'i

ko'i te cped= u ko'e ko'a

ko'e tese cpedu ko'i ko'a

ko'a tesete cpedu ko&#= 39;i ko'e

Honestly, that seems like a lot of work just to avoid = a kei.

Without using SE to swap places, the same bridi would be:

{.i mi ba cpedu lenu klama gi'e cpacu le selponse be cy. kei lo pre= nu}
"I will request 'coming and getting his things' from so= meone."
(^ Is a bit of a mash-up between literal and colloquial, be= cause the word order isn't normal for English, making it read funny.)
As far as I know, the only rule about cmavo clustering is that you can&= #39;t do it if the combination takes the form of a gismu, lujvo, fu'ivl= a, or other predicate-word (brivla), but otherwise it's personal choice= whether or not to cluster them. Some clusters are fairly common, and all c= lusters where the second word modifies the first, such as in .uicai or .iep= ei,, are standard practice.

As far as omitting denpabu, when in text there is any combination of &#= 39; ' and '.', it is permissible to omit all of '.' and= ' ' except one, such as {la.djan. .uisai xruti .i mi mutce gleki} = could be written as {la djan uisai i mi mutce gleki}, {la.djan.uisai xruti.= i mi mutce gleki}, etc. I typically only omit either when there is a semant= ic(?) link between them, and I always favor '.' over ' ', s= o my rendering would be {la.djan.uisai xruti .i mi mutce gleki}. My reason = for choosing to omit ' ' and not '.' is because when speaki= ng, those pauses /must/ /still/ /be/ /"said"/, and keeping the &#= 39;.' in the written serves as a reminder of when you /must/ pause.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:55 AM, =C1lvaro Val= lejo <avallejor@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Three questions:
1) I found another word that I= am not able to make a sense: "tesete". Here the context:
.i m= i ba tesete cpedu lo prenu lenu klama gi'e cpacu le selponse be = cy. li'u

which is translated as:
"I'll get someone to come by for hi= s things."

Could someone explain this term?

2) I&= #39;ve not been able to find the rules that governs a) clustering cm= avo, e.g. .ibabo, .iku'i, leza'i, etc... b) omitting the ini= tial period (e.g. i, ibabo, iku'i). Are these rules written somewhere o= r do they come from usage (I don't think so).

Thanks in advance.

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