Received: from mail-vb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:61664) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SS7Ig-0002gl-Ur; Wed, 09 May 2012 06:51:37 -0700 Received: by vbzb23 with SMTP id b23sf397715vbz.16 for ; Wed, 09 May 2012 06:51:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-pair-authenticated:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=eBpwuZv7dz7tV7x61lsx95cUnmtHhIyfQDue4TY3UZ4=; b=52jM4s2561MmXJbZrBbyg295z6KahRhzDgV2MG0HtMUCTu8Emkvo18JnHxBuPm8i43 tISXTjy459nodiCwLqzBljPXN1UZC2TDloOCn6+KG1D0kti777TRUGRYAvzYOpUv7tOu B0/IoKEaHyeeTmIkmP/nAYdjU+kQQ/RSODZLc= Received: by 10.50.88.138 with SMTP id bg10mr18615igb.0.1336571483276; Wed, 09 May 2012 06:51:23 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.50.74 with SMTP id y10ls5212159ibf.4.gmail; Wed, 09 May 2012 06:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.159.133 with SMTP id xc5mr1848826igb.0.1336571482673; Wed, 09 May 2012 06:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.159.133 with SMTP id xc5mr1848825igb.0.1336571482664; Wed, 09 May 2012 06:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay02.pair.com (relay02.pair.com. [209.68.5.16]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id ar8si766080igc.2.2012.05.09.06.51.22; Wed, 09 May 2012 06:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.68.5.16 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m3o@plasmatix.com) client-ip=209.68.5.16; Received: (qmail 82072 invoked from network); 9 May 2012 13:48:06 -0000 Received: from 87.160.138.157 (HELO ?192.168.1.33?) (87.160.138.157) by relay02.pair.com with SMTP; 9 May 2012 13:48:06 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 87.160.138.157 Message-ID: <4FAA7656.8020609@plasmatix.com> Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 15:51:18 +0200 From: Miles Forster User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] 'tesete' and cmavo cluster rules References: <22560097.502.1336568142532.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yndm3> <4FAA73C7.6020503@plasmatix.com> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: m3o@plasmatix.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.68.5.16 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m3o@plasmatix.com) smtp.mail=m3o@plasmatix.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 844 > > .ui does require the initial pause, there are no exceptions to the > vowel initial is preceded by pause rule. First of all, stop calling it a pause. Second of all, this is not an exception. A Lojban word may not begin in a vowel (spelling doesn't matter here). A word that would begin in a vowel needs a denpa bu before it. ui does not begin in a vowel. Therefore, no denpa bu is needed. -- .i da xamgu ganse fi no na'ebo lo risna .i lo vajrai cu nonselji'u lo kanla -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.