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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] 'tesete' and cmavo cluster rules
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On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Miles Forster <m3o@plasmatix.com> wrote:
>
>> .ui does require the initial pause, there are no exceptions to the vowel
>>> initial is preceded by pause rule.
>>>
>>
>> First of all, stop calling it a pause. Second of all, this is not an
>> exception. A Lojban word may not begin in a vowel (spelling doesn't matter
>> here). A word that would begin in a vowel needs a denpa bu before it. ui
>> does not begin in a vowel. Therefore, no denpa bu is needed.
>
>
> First of all, it /is/ a pause, so that's what I'm calling it. It is the
> textual representation of a mandatory pause in a Lojban speech stream.
>

I mean, seriously, why do you think the Lojban name of '.' is DENPA bu?
"denpa bu" in English is "pause character".

-- 
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Jonathan Jones <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:51 AM=
, Miles Forster <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:m3o@plasmatix.com" =
target=3D"_blank">m3o@plasmatix.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
.ui does require the initial pause, there are no exceptions to the vowel in=
itial is preceded by pause rule.<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
First of all, stop calling it a pause. Second of all, this is not an except=
ion. A Lojban word may not begin in a vowel (spelling doesn&#39;t matter he=
re). A word that would begin in a vowel needs a denpa bu before it. ui does=
 not begin in a vowel. Therefore, no denpa bu is needed.</blockquote>

</div><div><br>First of all, it /is/ a pause, so that&#39;s what I&#39;m ca=
lling it. It is the textual representation of a mandatory pause in a Lojban=
 speech stream. </div></div></blockquote><div><br>I mean, seriously, why do=
 you think the Lojban name of &#39;.&#39; is DENPA bu? &quot;denpa bu&quot;=
 in English is &quot;pause character&quot;. <br>
</div></div><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko c=
mima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the =
Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br><br>

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