Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:46240) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SRqKI-0003Jd-I3; Tue, 08 May 2012 12:44:03 -0700 Received: by obbtb18 with SMTP id tb18sf10714334obb.16 for ; Tue, 08 May 2012 12:43:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Ilrn75XRlrJQ9h8uca7m5jmQyBTHEx+pz6xoToMgQbY=; b=ns7p0vwVLTkyVOghn+Ie8Yh/0UHutfzNVNOeVMmz60gIsILiaUzxbIMthtuDYh2/Fr QKpuzDH5oufVtB4JCq3ziNJmM25eeI2PlhEXVMIuweB7f0iwZAh1MewJdhHcB7OY5QSU M7ILx6GIUOKvybWVwR/wTrQLQUvFGoWdbjzgs= Received: by 10.52.33.37 with SMTP id o5mr282854vdi.14.1336506235959; Tue, 08 May 2012 12:43:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.140.139 with SMTP id i11ls1701492vcu.1.gmail; Tue, 08 May 2012 12:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.68.134 with SMTP id w6mr8488vdt.6.1336506235267; Tue, 08 May 2012 12:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:43:54 -0700 (PDT) From: ianek To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <2280128.934.1336506234765.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbq19> In-Reply-To: References: <24427779.1345.1336480450165.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbbfk16> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] What is the cmavo for converting brivla into an attitudinal? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: janek37@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of janek37@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=janek37@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_933_27690977.1336506234764" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 3535 ------=_Part_933_27690977.1336506234764 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 {ki'ai} is of selma'o COI, so it's grammatical for it to convert brivla (or even more complex selbri). So maybe the definition is misleading? mu'o mi'e ianek On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 9:04:39 PM UTC+2, tijlan wrote: > > A couple of experimental options from jbovlaste: > > {ze'ei} creates a nonce word by joining one that defines its meaning > on the left and another that defines its grammar on the right. > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/ze%27ei > ex. > rigni ze'ei ge'e = ewww (a valsi that means {rigni} and has the > grammar of {ge'e}) > papsurla ze'ei co'o = R.I.P. ({co'o} adds nothing to the meaning of > this nonce valsi, but it's a nice hint) > > {ki'ai} creates a nonce UI from cmevla or zoi-quote but not brivla. > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/ki%27ai > ex. > ki'ai .zing. = Zing! > ki'ai .zanrur. = Defecately! > ki'ai zoi zoi 401KO'd zoi sai = totally got 401KO'd > > mu'o > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/5boMwUzN5PgJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_933_27690977.1336506234764 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable {ki'ai} is of selma'o COI, so it's grammatical for it to convert brivla (or= even more complex selbri). So maybe the definition is misleading?

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mu'o mi'e ianek

On Tuesday, May 8, 2012 9:04:39 PM UTC+2,= tijlan wrote:
A couple of expe= rimental options from jbovlaste:

{ze'ei} creates a nonce word by joining one that defines its meaning
on the left and another that defines its grammar on the right.
= http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/ze%27ei
ex.
rigni ze'ei ge'e =3D ewww (a valsi that means {rigni} and has the
grammar of {ge'e})
papsurla ze'ei co'o =3D R.I.P. ({co'o} adds nothing to the meaning of
this nonce valsi, but it's a nice hint)

{ki'ai} creates a nonce UI from cmevla or zoi-quote but not brivla.
= http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/ki%27ai
ex.
ki'ai .zing. =3D Zing!
ki'ai .zanrur. =3D Defecately!
ki'ai zoi zoi 401KO'd zoi sai =3D totally got 401KO'd

mu'o

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