Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:32790) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SRvj8-0005C1-Ei; Tue, 08 May 2012 18:30:03 -0700 Received: by werb13 with SMTP id b13sf1976301wer.16 for ; Tue, 08 May 2012 18:29:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oCXiyKJOLJYm4AmZNvxM62vdkuChKjzNPfRN8AYFeQo=; b=cCgxuuQT+Isig513eyu2kvfgklyCh3dq98+rUTbtrnGMDcKBKPjd7NFfO6BgLmdwNT M6TlHT8Kww4JIwCvkTDjuyycX5qRjkd/cGFQMpu/1QwH+ii9OL5OQkeJiLdx+RP5gC39 7dAf02iNlHkBF85SIYSrfzpUbLy51DpvhdyWY= Received: by 10.205.118.133 with SMTP id fq5mr736470bkc.1.1336526994462; Tue, 08 May 2012 18:29:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.152 with SMTP id t24ls3733578bks.1.gmail; Tue, 08 May 2012 18:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.143.143 with SMTP id v15mr2505712bku.8.1336526993504; Tue, 08 May 2012 18:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.143.143 with SMTP id v15mr2505711bku.8.1336526993489; Tue, 08 May 2012 18:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k15si1214185bks.0.2012.05.08.18.29.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 May 2012 18:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.54; Received: by mail-lpp01m010-f54.google.com with SMTP id v3so5609794lag.41 for ; Tue, 08 May 2012 18:29:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.36.133 with SMTP id q5mr9971892lbj.37.1336526993240; Tue, 08 May 2012 18:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.112.68 with HTTP; Tue, 8 May 2012 18:29:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201205080025.44688.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 22:29:53 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Reuse request From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 2035 On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas w= rote: >> >> 32/33/34: I think "norbra" is better than "na'obra", and I would also >> prefer "brana'o" to "na'obra". > > Do you have any particular reason for this, or is it just a personal > preference? Also, would you prefer "norbra" over "brana'o" or vice-versa? In order of preference: no'e barda > norbra > brana'o "brana'o" is from "cnano lo ka barda", "na'obra" is not so clear. >> 43: "sepli" should be "sepsi'u", and "kansa" is about doing something >> together, not really about location. I suggest "jonsi'u" or >> "tolsepsi'u" instead. > > Okay, the sepsi'u thing I get, but lo te kansa is an event /or/ state. Yes, but the hands that are raised together are kansi'u as much as those that are touching one other together. >I > agree that "jonsi'u" is a better choice here, "lamsi'u" works too. >but I'd prefer to use gismu as > I said above, I can't use any word involving jorne in the later panels, a= nd > the repitition of the word in multiple examples is kind of the point of > those panels. > > Do you have a suggestion I can use in place of sepli/kansa I can use in a= ll > those panels? sepsi'u/tolsepsi'u? >> 63: To me "ko'a pafspe ko'e" means "ko'a speni lo patfu be ko'e", and >> "ko'a be'aspe ko'e" is "ko'a speni lo bersa be ko'e". > > So, "spepa'u" and "spebe'a"? spepa'u is father-in-law, spebe'a is stepson. son-in-law would usually be tixspe ("nakni pazyspe", "male offspring-spouse") would be a more exact translation, which is not necessarily better. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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