Received: from mail-wg0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:43331) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SSJSi-00011c-3D; Wed, 09 May 2012 19:50:46 -0700 Received: by wgbdt10 with SMTP id dt10sf636356wgb.16 for ; Wed, 09 May 2012 19:50:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=HWniYX+zqPQ90VsaZbw0TplVl2mhiXiFw86CeLMaiSc=; b=KsCgs34OcUBhxt2/GJfmRM+vgsPKM7+RfUdaBryNDLfOq93mj7eQ2kaRGPiOaTAdlW l3ijEYQuBw3PqKKglUmCgf+5pjh0/z6kDtsn9CGhhnbAkK98OqKw6ucvberZbA+CQw6D Q3XYiMeplKy1nzpWNc/vr1DdzfB7W+A4YxWpA= Received: by 10.204.153.193 with SMTP id l1mr115916bkw.34.1336618231542; Wed, 09 May 2012 19:50:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.145 with SMTP id t17ls4551402bks.8.gmail; Wed, 09 May 2012 19:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.157.134 with SMTP id b6mr296968bkx.5.1336618229591; Wed, 09 May 2012 19:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.157.134 with SMTP id b6mr296966bkx.5.1336618229560; Wed, 09 May 2012 19:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f46.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f46.google.com [209.85.215.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k15si5346229bks.0.2012.05.09.19.50.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 09 May 2012 19:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.46; Received: by mail-lpp01m010-f46.google.com with SMTP id d3so893042lah.5 for ; Wed, 09 May 2012 19:50:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.123.229 with SMTP id md5mr2353453lab.34.1336618229316; Wed, 09 May 2012 19:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.22.68 with HTTP; Wed, 9 May 2012 19:50:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <13954430.1727.1336608605204.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynbv35> References: <22560097.502.1336568142532.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yndm3> <13954430.1727.1336608605204.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynbv35> Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 20:50:29 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: 'tesete' and cmavo cluster rules From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04426aa4c23ba404bfa5aed2 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 4708 --f46d04426aa4c23ba404bfa5aed2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:10 PM, =C1lvaro Vallejo wrot= e: > .uesai > > > - "The initial period can never be omitted before vowels (if they are * > phonetically* vowels. {ui} =3D [wi], so no dot is necessary). " > - "ui does not begin in a vowel. Therefore, no denpa bu is needed." > > Well... I am really shocked! How is it that "u" is not a vowel? It IS a > vowel or I should start learning again Lojban from zero: it's name is > indeed ybu, isn't it? > (Chapter 1 of Lojban for beginners, Chapter 2 of CLL)... It IS a vowel, always. It's name is ".ubu". ".ybu" is the name of another vowel, "y". > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/AINBgk5ryt8J. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --f46d04426aa4c23ba404bfa5aed2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:10 PM, =C1lvaro Vallejo= <avallejor@gmail.com> wrote:
.uesai


- "The initial period can never be omi= tted before vowels (if they are phonetically vowels. {ui} =3D [wi], so no dot is necessary). "
- "ui does not begin in a vowel. Therefore, no denpa bu is = needed."

Well... I am really shocked! How is it that &quo= t;u" is not a vowel? It IS a vowel or I should start learning again Lo= jban from zero: it's name is indeed ybu, isn't it?
(Chapter 1 of Lojban for beginners, Chapter 2 of CLL)...
<= br>It IS a vowel, always. It's name is ".ubu". ".ybu&quo= t; is the name of another vowel, "y".
=A0

=20

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &= quot;Lojban Beginners" group.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.= google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/AINBgk5ryt8J.
=

=20 To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+un= subscribe@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/g= roup/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den.



--
mu'o mi= 'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.l= uk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. = :D )

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group.
To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.
--f46d04426aa4c23ba404bfa5aed2--