Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:45579) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SSbhm-0003ms-7x; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:19:27 -0700 Received: by bkcik5 with SMTP id ik5sf1124771bkc.16 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:19:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=bLOqKIzTyxyGU2RLBPwvSHrLNlTBj92KJOxOCzNRopM=; b=wiS0T73sI8vtjMyPvhHBqs6j8kPTxd1rRAaFihuleebSH47kwVFLr7YdHyKEsKH1pm VBO7qYYScCCMD3EkjjLAA4YMuwjd6aD85wroD0UKAlhYpIC0Y+ST+D/21EsPMh8s1t4f N1gYOBUC03eEAreXiqI7mNO74DObZKpWkzXws= Received: by 10.180.96.6 with SMTP id do6mr102693wib.1.1336688358276; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:19:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.7.9 with SMTP id f9ls1391736wia.2.canary; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.98.67 with SMTP id eg3mr134564wib.3.1336688356825; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.98.67 with SMTP id eg3mr134563wib.3.1336688356810; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com (mail-wg0-f49.google.com [74.125.82.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ei10si1025665wid.0.2012.05.10.15.19.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 10 May 2012 15:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.49; Received: by wgbds1 with SMTP id ds1so1511495wgb.18 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:19:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.81.37 with SMTP id w5mr1620213wix.16.1336688356655; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.199.21 with HTTP; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:19:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <22560097.502.1336568142532.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yndm3> <13954430.1727.1336608605204.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynbv35> <4FAB92A7.8030500@plasmatix.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 16:19:16 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: 'tesete' and cmavo cluster rules From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428dc0ac82ab04bfb6026c X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 3568 --f46d04428dc0ac82ab04bfb6026c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas wro= te: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Michael Turniansky > wrote: > > Not to mention that the CLL specifically SAYS that "uV" and "iV" > require a > > pause before them. (Chapter 4.2) You are right, Miles, "Some here seem > to > > lack reading comprehension" > > camxes agrees with Miles though. camxes doesn't require a glottal stop > or pause in front of semi-consonantal i/u. > mu'o mi'e xorxes > That's not true. camxes doesn't allow there to not be a pause, it merely allows denpa bu to be elided. {abu e cy i o uu i zo ybu} parses perfectly fine in camxes for this reason. Notice that each vowel appears as an initial letter, and denpa bu does not appear anywhere. --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --f46d04428dc0ac82ab04bfb6026c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDa= s <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansky@gmail.com> = wrote:
> =A0 Not to mention that the CLL specifically SAYS that "uV" = and "iV" require a
> pause before them. (Chapter 4.2) =A0You are right, Miles, "Some h= ere seem to
> lack reading comprehension"

camxes agrees with Miles though. camxes doesn't require a glottal= stop
or pause in front of semi-consonantal i/u.=A0

mu'o mi'e xorxes

That's no= t true. camxes doesn't allow there to not be a pause, it merely allows = denpa bu to be elided.

{abu e cy i o uu i zo ybu} parses perfectly f= ine in camxes for this reason. Notice that each vowel appears as an initial= letter, and denpa bu does not appear anywhere.

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo piln= o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Lu= ke, I am your father. :D )

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