Received: from mail-lb0-f189.google.com ([209.85.217.189]:33605) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SSc5v-0003vp-Cx; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:44:24 -0700 Received: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5sf1123343lbo.16 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:44:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Ho+11MlNo6lhUmGf7W8mGoPMvz6XhC2wSLLfd9t0PmE=; b=63tTJCKcFVs1s8LfYfJCch/XKMiLgP6sEOEbK9zX4iSTiIT38BQ3xZrPPjy/k75qTo oenRCCoWNeLxS3ZKQk0d9970LxPCq8qeaOieDiCk4eamQAW5SbTC1+77fYbjOmmTTGBQ x40GXKGl/TxCSCZev/HL675HvObmiJck68cyA= Received: by 10.204.153.205 with SMTP id l13mr321050bkw.15.1336689854892; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:44:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.152 with SMTP id t24ls5476813bks.1.gmail; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.156.199 with SMTP id y7mr834135bkw.7.1336689854028; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.156.199 with SMTP id y7mr834134bkw.7.1336689854005; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f175.google.com (mail-lb0-f175.google.com [209.85.217.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p5si8609530bks.1.2012.05.10.15.44.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 10 May 2012 15:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.175; Received: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5so1522228lbo.6 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:44:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.99.100 with SMTP id ep4mr2836777lbb.40.1336689853519; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.22.68 with HTTP; Thu, 10 May 2012 15:44:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201205080025.44688.phma@phma.optus.nu> <12872840.1048.1336566301897.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjb15> <3f2be27f-7c0e-459f-9b8a-f0a3b401cfb1@l15g2000vbv.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 16:44:13 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Reuse request From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0401fde3e4d85c04bfb65b3b X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 4752 --f46d0401fde3e4d85c04bfb65b3b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas wro= te: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Jones > wrote: > > Obviously I don't > > know what you think the appropriate choice is, or I would have used it, > so > > you need to /tell/ me. > > But it's your translation, not mine. When it comes to translations, > there are very rarely definitely right or wrong answers. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > Well, that's why I used the phrase "you think". I'm not talking about right or wrong here. You are clearly making these comments because you feel that there is a /better choice/ than the one I have made in those instances. Merely telling me that you dislike my choice doesn't provide enough information. Providing what you think would be a better choice as well, however, would. Such as with the "na'obra" thing. You'll notice that I asked you not only why you preferred a different word choice, but also your order of preference regarding the multiple choices. My decision to use "no'e barda" in the end wasn't based on your preference, but it did take your opinion into account. (I chose "no'e barda" because I like it more than the lujvo form of same, it's more simple, which I feel is important in the earlier panels especially, and I think no'e is a better choice than cnano.) --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --f46d0401fde3e4d85c04bfb65b3b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDa= s <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> Obviously I don't
> know what you think the appropriate choice is, or I would have used it= , so
> you need to /tell/ me.

But it's your translation, not mine. When it comes to translation= s,
there are very rarely definitely right or wrong answers.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

Well, that's why I used the phrase "y= ou think". I'm not talking about right or wrong here. You are clea= rly making these comments because you feel that there is a /better choice/ = than the one I have made in those instances. Merely telling me that you dis= like my choice doesn't provide enough information. Providing what you t= hink would be a better choice as well, however, would.

Such as with the "na'obra" thing.

You'll notic= e that I asked you not only why you preferred a different word choice, but = also your order of preference regarding the multiple choices. My decision t= o use "no'e barda" in the end wasn't based on your prefer= ence, but it did take your opinion into account. (I chose "no'e ba= rda" because I like it more than the lujvo form of same, it's more= simple, which I feel is important in the earlier panels especially, and I = think no'e is a better choice than cnano.)

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo piln= o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Lu= ke, I am your father. :D )

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