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On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>wro=
te:

> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com=
>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> camxes agrees with Miles though. camxes doesn't require a glottal stop
> >> or pause in front of semi-consonantal i/u.
> >
> > That's not true. camxes doesn't allow there to not be a pause, it merel=
y
> > allows denpa bu to be elided.
>
> You should trust me on this one, I did the morphology section of camxes,
>
> > {abu e cy i o uu i zo ybu} parses perfectly fine in camxes for this
> reason.
> > Notice that each vowel appears as an initial letter, and denpa bu does
> not
> > appear anywhere.
>
> Irrelevant to what we were discussing.
>
> "abu e cy i ouu i zo ybu" also parses correctly, since camxes does not
> require a space in front of "uu".
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>

In that case, I would submit that in this matter, camxes is wrong, as it
disagrees with the CLL in a matter that has not been changed since it's
publication. (IIRC, it also disagrees with CLL in the matters of Dot-Side
and xorlo, but those are changes that have occured since the CLL was
published, so they don't count.)

--=20
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDa=
s <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">
<div class=3D"im">On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Jonathan Jones &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:jjllambias@gmail.com">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
</div><div class=3D"im">&gt;&gt; camxes agrees with Miles though. camxes do=
esn&#39;t require a glottal stop<br>
&gt;&gt; or pause in front of semi-consonantal i/u.<br>
&gt;<br>
</div><div class=3D"im">&gt; That&#39;s not true. camxes doesn&#39;t allow =
there to not be a pause, it merely<br>
&gt; allows denpa bu to be elided.<br>
<br>
</div>You should trust me on this one, I did the morphology section of camx=
es,<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; {abu e cy i o uu i zo ybu} parses perfectly fine in camxes for this re=
ason.<br>
&gt; Notice that each vowel appears as an initial letter, and denpa bu does=
 not<br>
&gt; appear anywhere.<br>
<br>
</div>Irrelevant to what we were discussing.<br>
<br>
&quot;abu e cy i ouu i zo ybu&quot; also parses correctly, since camxes doe=
s not<br>
require a space in front of &quot;uu&quot;.<br>
<div class=3D"h5"><br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes<br>
</div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"></div></blockquote></div><br>In that case, I wo=
uld submit that in this matter, camxes is wrong, as it disagrees with the C=
LL in a matter that has not been changed since it&#39;s publication. (IIRC,=
 it also disagrees with CLL in the matters of Dot-Side and xorlo, but those=
 are changes that have occured since the CLL was published, so they don&#39=
;t count.)<br clear=3D"all">
<br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo piln=
o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Lu=
ke, I am your father. :D )<br><br>

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