Received: from mail-wg0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:48962) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SScNF-0004Cs-LW; Thu, 10 May 2012 16:02:22 -0700 Received: by wgbdt10 with SMTP id dt10sf1190061wgb.16 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 16:02:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=+hX1RFXpND152Ml1tN4KgvlkvOP0LM7Z19wfIniCoI8=; b=hIsatS17Ll37om6rpRm/tL5GeLhthYtDJZ5rJhK1XKJ9sl9owQzQjIzpfktv5WUX0e 21yKZIehX1YJGO4j+3T/v+IjK8i8ZFnNWW/EEWry2zwVCZrtJ87zx2dKRiYMFygJ+cV7 gmvMVA5dId6QxBBg09k7hFzhTPPUmIcOlj1yM= Received: by 10.204.154.141 with SMTP id o13mr319392bkw.25.1336690929867; Thu, 10 May 2012 16:02:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.129.85 with SMTP id n21ls5472206bks.6.gmail; Thu, 10 May 2012 16:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.141.4 with SMTP id k4mr837321bku.6.1336690928931; Thu, 10 May 2012 16:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.141.4 with SMTP id k4mr837320bku.6.1336690928915; Thu, 10 May 2012 16:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f47.google.com [209.85.215.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hy18si8656653bkc.2.2012.05.10.16.02.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 10 May 2012 16:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.47; Received: by lags15 with SMTP id s15so1534554lag.6 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 16:02:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.23.200 with SMTP id o8mr2098080lbf.9.1336690928554; Thu, 10 May 2012 16:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.112.68 with HTTP; Thu, 10 May 2012 16:02:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201205080025.44688.phma@phma.optus.nu> <12872840.1048.1336566301897.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjb15> <3f2be27f-7c0e-459f-9b8a-f0a3b401cfb1@l15g2000vbv.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 20:02:08 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Reuse request From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1425 On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > The x3 of sepli is the thing doing the seperating. In the English definition > at least (It doesn't have a Lojban definition yet) the applicable te sepli > are any of "partition/wall/gap/interval/separating medium". > > Would you disagree that {mi do sepli loka clabra}? (I probably could have > come up with something better for "great distance", but meh.) No, I would agree. But if you are happy with any true statement, then two people living together in the same house are also "sepli". What I don't like much is "kansa" and "sepli" being contrasted as if they were antonyms, since they are not quite at the same level. But I do understand the difficulty of translating this since the comic was designed to show the contrast between two particular Ceqli words, not two Lojban words. What you could do is make this about "to'e" instead of about sepli vs. kansa, and then use "sepsi'u" and "tolsepsi'u" for the hands and "kansi'u" and "tolkansi'u" for xabju. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.