Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:47570) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SSeBc-0004pG-Mx; Thu, 10 May 2012 17:58:25 -0700 Received: by eaad14 with SMTP id d14sf1149560eaa.16 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 17:58:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=tM0ZUJ90uaWs06SP0is3+5ziKVIqfGypJbf8/9uqSBo=; b=mpFy93/dXkExPC4yUnY7dPNEIRTafw0SX5sCtXGmJkdx8kBVpt5qolBTF6tpY3hErq dQssvH6IiFXXn0aEggWOnOU5CqVElFDuJCAZlujXXMxPOAZ6IvJTb0YkbAxHZ5xAKn4D 8CEjloNGHfqUqo2lXLdBd/q1q3NU/KNam1zmY= Received: by 10.204.129.7 with SMTP id m7mr288731bks.32.1336697896759; Thu, 10 May 2012 17:58:16 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.145 with SMTP id t17ls5531034bks.8.gmail; Thu, 10 May 2012 17:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.132.81 with SMTP id a17mr860761bkt.4.1336697896057; Thu, 10 May 2012 17:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.132.81 with SMTP id a17mr860760bkt.4.1336697896037; Thu, 10 May 2012 17:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f46.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f46.google.com [209.85.215.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p5si8969491bks.1.2012.05.10.17.58.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 10 May 2012 17:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.46; Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so1538507lah.19 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 17:58:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.123.244 with SMTP id md20mr6501947lab.0.1336697895626; Thu, 10 May 2012 17:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.22.68 with HTTP; Thu, 10 May 2012 17:58:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201205080025.44688.phma@phma.optus.nu> <12872840.1048.1336566301897.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjb15> <3f2be27f-7c0e-459f-9b8a-f0a3b401cfb1@l15g2000vbv.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 18:58:15 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Reuse request From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042f9cd83da60204bfb83b3a X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 5130 --f46d042f9cd83da60204bfb83b3a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas w= rote: > >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Jonathan Jones >> wrote: >> > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Jonathan Jones >> wrote: >> >> >> >> So, how about, respectively: >> >> >> >> {lo mi xance cu sepsi'u .i lo mi xance cu to'e sepsi'u} (Picture >> edited to >> >> reverse hands apart/together order.) >> >> {ko'a kansi'u xabju .i ko'e tolkansi'u xabju) >> >> I would go with "ko'a kansi'u lo ka xabju .i ko'e tolkansi'u lo ka xabju= ". >> >> >> Which has the additional benefit of showing that the valsi "to'e" and >> the >> >> rafsi "tol" are equivalent? >> > >> > Or how about {lo mi xance cu jonsi'u .i lo mi xance cu to'e jonsi'u}, >> > without graphic editing, would would be nicer for me? >> >> Sounds good. >> >> mu'o mi'e xorxes >> > > Now what to do about #45? > > {mi citka .i la.djan. citka .i mi .e dy. kansi'u citka .i mi'a kansi'ucti= } > has nothing to do with to'e, it was another example of the "together" dea= l, > so it's basically useless now.... I'm also thinking about removing the final lines in panels #41 and 45, as they currently contain the complicated, ugly, and likely never actually used in conversation "kansi'uxa'u" and "kansi'ucti". Thoughts? --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --f46d042f9cd83da60204bfb83b3a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Jonathan Jones = <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:07 P= M, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> So, how about, respectively:
>>
>> {lo mi xance cu sepsi'u .i lo mi xance cu to'e sepsi'u= } (Picture edited to
>> reverse hands apart/together order.)
>> {ko'a kansi'u xabju .i ko'e tolkansi'u xabju)

I would go with "ko'a kansi'u lo ka xabju .i ko'e to= lkansi'u lo ka xabju".

>> Which has the additional benefit of showing that the valsi "t= o'e" and the
>> rafsi "tol" are equivalent?
>
> Or how about {lo mi xance cu jonsi'u .i lo mi xance cu to'e jo= nsi'u},
> without graphic editing, would would be nicer for me?

Sounds good.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

Now what to = do about #45?

{mi citka .i la.djan. citka .i mi .e dy. kansi'u c= itka .i mi'a kansi'ucti} has nothing to do with to'e, it was an= other example of the "together" deal, so it's basically usele= ss now....
I'm also thinking about removing the final line= s in panels #41 and 45, as they currently contain the complicated, ugly, an= d likely never actually used in conversation "kansi'uxa'u"= ; and "kansi'ucti". Thoughts?

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo piln= o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Lu= ke, I am your father. :D )

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