Received: from mail-ee0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]:58615) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SSeGI-0004sk-Ht; Thu, 10 May 2012 18:03:18 -0700 Received: by eekb57 with SMTP id b57sf235251eek.16 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 18:03:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=48AZorsxLUEmqOip0Et07swyzY6kgoqejtdGXwVrBCw=; b=J8LoEvj63PMVe6KAmbzsfbUNbrLwXs18Fv9qUM4+Xm0+AbkRYlUC480mSf6RQ4Vfl4 S00Y4wOLe2hgdkyFSIGIDzxiHjdk0Hhbta7VLjAS+d4ZfNl8Zrdeaz4XZ6ocBMMsoWol mTRJ5z/N6Ns0xcKDofpB1L7iTzTiI6xbiZTOk= Received: by 10.205.133.208 with SMTP id hz16mr286887bkc.11.1336698186715; Thu, 10 May 2012 18:03:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.129.208 with SMTP id p16ls5520012bks.7.gmail; Thu, 10 May 2012 18:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.157.134 with SMTP id b6mr862110bkx.5.1336698186121; Thu, 10 May 2012 18:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.157.134 with SMTP id b6mr862109bkx.5.1336698186099; Thu, 10 May 2012 18:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p5si8982788bks.1.2012.05.10.18.03.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 10 May 2012 18:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.172; Received: by lbbgo11 with SMTP id go11so2240166lbb.17 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 18:03:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.132.233 with SMTP id ox9mr3590708lab.4.1336698185639; Thu, 10 May 2012 18:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.22.68 with HTTP; Thu, 10 May 2012 18:03:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201205080025.44688.phma@phma.optus.nu> <12872840.1048.1336566301897.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjb15> <3f2be27f-7c0e-459f-9b8a-f0a3b401cfb1@l15g2000vbv.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 19:03:05 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Reuse request From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042c6c4d86e54504bfb84c55 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 5025 --f46d042c6c4d86e54504bfb84c55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas wro= te: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote= : > > > > Now what to do about #45? > > > > {mi citka .i la.djan. citka .i mi .e dy. kansi'u citka .i mi'a > kansi'ucti} > > has nothing to do with to'e, it was another example of the "together" > deal, > > so it's basically useless now.... > > ".e" is not quite right there. "mi .e dy. kansi'u citka" means "mi > kansi'u citka .i je dy. kansi'u citka". You want "jo'u" or "joi". > Or I could put "mi .e dy." inside "lo'i", but I don't much like that idea. Where are these other places? > I also prefer the lujvo as "mi jo'u dy. kansi'u lo ka citka .i mi'a > ctikansi'u". > > (There are a couple of other places where you have ".e" that don't > quite work, but I didn't bother to comment on them.) > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDa= s <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Now what to do about #45?
>
> {mi citka .i la.djan. citka .i mi .e dy. kansi'u citka .i mi'a= kansi'ucti}
> has nothing to do with to'e, it was another example of the "t= ogether" deal,
> so it's basically useless now....

".e" is not quite right there. "mi .e dy. kansi'u = citka" means "mi
kansi'u citka .i je dy. kansi'u citka". You want "jo'= u" or "joi".

Or I could put "m= i .e dy." inside "lo'i", but I don't much like that = idea.

Where are these other places?
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I also prefer the lujvo as "mi jo'u dy. kansi'u lo ka citka .i= mi'a ctikansi'u".

(There are a couple of other places where you have ".e" that don&= #39;t
quite work, but I didn't bother to comment on them.)

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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