Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:54707) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SSfUQ-0005Pl-OE; Thu, 10 May 2012 19:21:56 -0700 Received: by dadp14 with SMTP id p14sf2685528dad.16 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 19:21:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=xevLQ9sd8Gn5hR8GGm5c0j/C11cWRjxTJaPyH/kCZlc=; b=I5ZC0mxYcZZEwC0nDpvSbOe4PXhlcMMHVTsuUp+wBP6YxWhBqWy8SBbwhJXEjHjDZ4 TAQTTE57PObUe0E+md/Bsw439MyjepLTa7nPTu3sr4eAMa5thzxRzLXZgBKEJi5CiGWw bw8t6t1wDuYDcvrSfVi3ToLJvUOaDA8xy+l+s= Received: by 10.236.77.138 with SMTP id d10mr84731yhe.14.1336702908076; Thu, 10 May 2012 19:21:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.149.9 with SMTP id w9ls6495441yhj.9.gmail; Thu, 10 May 2012 19:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.76.133 with SMTP id b5mr9975401yhe.0.1336702907406; Thu, 10 May 2012 19:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.76.133 with SMTP id b5mr9975400yhe.0.1336702907397; Thu, 10 May 2012 19:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id y36si8191676yhg.2.2012.05.10.19.21.46; Thu, 10 May 2012 19:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C6D208ED for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 22:21:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: 'tesete' and cmavo cluster rules Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 22:21:41 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <22560097.502.1336568142532.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yndm3> <4FAB92A7.8030500@plasmatix.com> <8679592.192.1336688566929.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbkv21> In-Reply-To: <8679592.192.1336688566929.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbkv21> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201205102221.43439.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1029 On Thursday 10 May 2012 18:22:46 =C1lvaro Vallejo wrote: > My reading of this is that there is only one way to pronounce u, which is > (among others) the plain Spanish "u". > > 2. It may be that speakers of other languages can pronounce it as "w" (an= d > I can forgive them), but I can/do clearly pronounce it as plain "u": .ui = =3D > "u" + "i" "ui" is as in "huipil", "ue" is as in "huele". They are both diphthongs. Th= ey=20 can be pronounced as two syllables, which is written "u,i" or "u,e" in=20 Lojban, but this makes no difference to the identity of a word. Pierre --=20 I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.