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On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>wro=
te:

> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Changes in bold:
> >
> > #41. lo'i mi .e la.djan. .e la snime .e la.flyfis. ku kans'iu xabju lo =
vu
> > cmalu zdani
> >
> > #54. cy: xu do'o se panzi
> >     by: go'i .i mi'a se panzi lo cimei noi me lo'i pa nanla .e re nixli
>
> Grammatically you need "lu'i ... [lu'u]" in those, not "lo'i ... ku",
> but I don't think sets live in houses or have (this kind of) parents.
>

I don't see why it needs to be "lu'i" and not "lo'i". Isn't "lo'i X" "the
set of X"?


> BTW, I'm not sure it has ever been defined whether "lu'i ko'a .e ko'e"
> is the set whose elements are ko'a and ko'e and nothing else, or any
> set containing ko'a and ko'e.
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>

I have no idea, but I fail to see how the latter is useful, especially when
held in comparison to the former. It also seems to me it would be easier to
extend a set restricted by default than to restrict a set extended by
default.

--=20
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Jorge Llamb=EDa=
s <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">
<div class=3D"im">On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Jonathan Jones &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Changes in bold:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; #41. lo&#39;i mi .e la.djan. .e la snime .e la.flyfis. ku kans&#39;iu =
xabju lo vu<br>
&gt; cmalu zdani<br>
&gt;<br>
</div><div class=3D"im">&gt; #54. cy: xu do&#39;o se panzi<br>
&gt; =A0=A0=A0 by: go&#39;i .i mi&#39;a se panzi lo cimei noi me lo&#39;i p=
a nanla .e re nixli<br>
<br>
</div>Grammatically you need &quot;lu&#39;i ... [lu&#39;u]&quot; in those, =
not &quot;lo&#39;i ... ku&quot;,<br>
but I don&#39;t think sets live in houses or have (this kind of) parents.<b=
r></blockquote><div><br>I don&#39;t see why it needs to be &quot;lu&#39;i&q=
uot; and not &quot;lo&#39;i&quot;. Isn&#39;t &quot;lo&#39;i X&quot; &quot;t=
he set of X&quot;?<br>
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

BTW, I&#39;m not sure it has ever been defined whether &quot;lu&#39;i ko&#3=
9;a .e ko&#39;e&quot;<br>
is the set whose elements are ko&#39;a and ko&#39;e and nothing else, or an=
y<br>
set containing ko&#39;a and ko&#39;e.<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>I have no idea, but I fail to see how th=
e latter is useful, especially when held in comparison to the former. It al=
so seems to me it would be easier to extend a set restricted by default tha=
n to restrict a set extended by default.<br clear=3D"all">
<br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo piln=
o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Lu=
ke, I am your father. :D )<br><br>

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