Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:63026) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SSpeJ-0002sZ-BL; Fri, 11 May 2012 06:12:54 -0700 Received: by wibhr4 with SMTP id hr4sf755398wib.16 for ; Fri, 11 May 2012 06:12:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=gl0NDf4WjGb43d8Lg0X8P6WPICMnI1ygPqLiqH69Xeo=; b=m2LPfJ4r4pSazphUa9BEFgCkN6SLXTvlV3X63j27TnBld6vlT/9sUl/aqXPZRdssGS rmdY+aLYoUvj3/+PTWZfiT5i2xdykT7WDclEkObXbhsFivGE/fZMr0eJMjS2pQdu2bwf F7s/Vk50If7kMs/mVRTH+4zlm7/HmvHB03Kio= Received: by 10.205.133.208 with SMTP id hz16mr326122bkc.11.1336741958867; Fri, 11 May 2012 06:12:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.128.67 with SMTP id j3ls2534911bks.9.gmail; Fri, 11 May 2012 06:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.133 with SMTP id o5mr1120972bkw.0.1336741958048; Fri, 11 May 2012 06:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.133 with SMTP id o5mr1120971bkw.0.1336741957961; Fri, 11 May 2012 06:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (mail-lb0-f181.google.com [209.85.217.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k15si10973124bks.0.2012.05.11.06.12.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 11 May 2012 06:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.181; Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id gk8so2039249lbb.26 for ; Fri, 11 May 2012 06:12:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.86.166 with SMTP id q6mr1527783lbz.6.1336741957654; Fri, 11 May 2012 06:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.22.68 with HTTP; Fri, 11 May 2012 06:12:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201205080025.44688.phma@phma.optus.nu> <12872840.1048.1336566301897.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynjb15> <3f2be27f-7c0e-459f-9b8a-f0a3b401cfb1@l15g2000vbv.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 07:12:37 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Reuse request From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0401faed8ad7d304bfc27d4d X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 4015 --f46d0401faed8ad7d304bfc27d4d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Jorge Llamb=EDas w= rote: > >> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Jonathan Jones >> wrote: >> > Changes in bold: >> > >> > #41. lo'i mi .e la.djan. .e la snime .e la.flyfis. ku kans'iu xabju lo >> vu >> > cmalu zdani >> > >> > #54. cy: xu do'o se panzi >> > by: go'i .i mi'a se panzi lo cimei noi me lo'i pa nanla .e re nixl= i >> >> Grammatically you need "lu'i ... [lu'u]" in those, not "lo'i ... ku", >> but I don't think sets live in houses or have (this kind of) parents. >> > > I don't see why it needs to be "lu'i" and not "lo'i". Isn't "lo'i X" "the > set of X"? > Does this have something to do with the difference between a "sumti6" and a "sumti2", and what do the # in "sumti#" mean in camxes anyway? --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --f46d0401faed8ad7d304bfc27d4d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Jonatha= n Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Jorge = Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> Changes in bold:
>
> #41. lo'i mi .e la.djan. .e la snime .e la.flyfis. ku kans'iu = xabju lo vu
> cmalu zdani
>
> #54. cy: xu do'o se panzi
> =A0=A0=A0 by: go'i .i mi'a se panzi lo cimei noi me lo'i p= a nanla .e re nixli

Grammatically you need "lu'i ... [lu'u]" in those, = not "lo'i ... ku",
but I don't think sets live in houses or have (this kind of) parents.

I don't see why it needs to be "lu&#= 39;i" and not "lo'i". Isn't "lo'i X" &= quot;the set of X"?

Does this have som= ething to do with the difference between a "sumti6" and a "s= umti2", and what do the # in "sumti#" mean in camxes anyway?=

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