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 Content preview:  Hmm, well I think that with Lojban, things can be made more
    clearly, the letter-to-sound rules are consistant, so that if you know how
    Lojban's rules of letter-to-sound rules work, you can just listen to something
    and know how it sounds, which means that you don't have to ask how things
    are spelled. I am very new to Lojban, so if I have something wrong please
    correct me. And, even though there are few Lojban text-to-speech engines,
    E-speak is the only one I know of that has Lojban, but if there were more,
    I would suspect that it would be very simple to create, since Lojban's rules
    of speech are quite simple compared to English. Oh and for anyone that has
    an iOS device, there is a Lojban dictionary available. Hmm, I wonder if there
    are any Lojban Zello/LoudTalks channels? If not I will create one. Zello
   is a service like teamtalk and Ventrillo, it is for Android, iOS, PC and lots
    of other systems. On May 16, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Lee Carlson <lorddraqo@gmail.com>
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Hmm, well I think that with Lojban, things  can be made more clearly, the l=
etter-to-sound rules are consistant, so that if you know how Lojban's rules=
 of letter-to-sound rules work, you can just listen to something and know h=
ow it sounds, which means that you don't have to ask how things are spelled=
. I am very new to Lojban, so if I have something wrong please correct me. =
And, even though there are few Lojban text-to-speech engines, E-speak is th=
e only one I know of that has Lojban, but if there were more, I would suspe=
ct that it would be very simple to create, since Lojban's rules of speech a=
re quite simple compared to English. Oh and for anyone that has an iOS devi=
ce, there is a Lojban dictionary available. Hmm, I wonder if there are any =
Lojban Zello/LoudTalks channels? If not I will create one. Zello is a servi=
ce like teamtalk and Ventrillo, it is for Android, iOS, PC and lots of othe=
r systems.
On May 16, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Lee Carlson <lorddraqo@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bill and Jeff were fighting and he hit him.
> Lojban makes explicit who hit whom.
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> Do you spit blue?
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> We have red chickens and cows.
> Are the cows red?
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> Bill and Jeff went to the store.
> Did they go together?
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> It's implicit in English and explicit in Lojban. Also the grammar is pred=
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<html><head></head><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>Hmm, well I think that wi=
th Lojban, things &nbsp;can be made more clearly, the letter-to-sound rules=
 are consistant, so that if you know how Lojban's rules of letter-to-sound =
rules work, you can just listen to something and know how it sounds, which =
means that you don't have to ask how things are spelled. I am very new to L=
ojban, so if I have something wrong please correct me. And, even though the=
re are few Lojban text-to-speech engines, E-speak is the only one I know of=
 that has Lojban, but if there were more, I would suspect that it would be =
very simple to create, since Lojban's rules of speech are quite simple comp=
ared to English. Oh and for anyone that has an iOS device, there is a Lojba=
n dictionary available. Hmm, I wonder if there are any Lojban Zello/LoudTal=
ks channels? If not I will create one. Zello is a service like teamtalk and=
 Ventrillo, it is for Android, iOS, PC and lots of other systems.</div><div=
>On May 16, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Lee Carlson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lorddraqo@g=
mail.com">lorddraqo@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div>Bill and Jeff were fighting and he hit him.<br>Loj=
ban makes explicit who hit whom.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, =
May 16, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Lindar <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lin=
darthebard@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">lindarthebard@gmail.com</a>&gt;</sp=
an> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">We we spit and bleed blue.<br>
Do you spit blue?<br>
<br>
We have red chickens and cows.<br>
Are the cows red?<br>
<br>
Bill and Jeff went to the store.<br>
Did they go together?<br>
<br>
It's implicit in English and explicit in Lojban. Also the grammar is predic=
ate based.<br>
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