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On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:18 AM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:

> Also, I still don't see any difference in meaning between {broda} and
> {me lo broda}.
>

Well, obviously, it's the place structure.

{mi klama} means "I go from somewhere to somewhere by some route using some
means"/"I am-a-go-er from somewhere to somewhere by some route using some
means" (and all the various different tenses of those).

{mi me lo klama} means "I am amongst-those-that-are-(something that goes
from somewhere to somewhere by some route using some means) in some aspect".

You have to remember that unfilled places are always implicitly filled with
"zo'e", as well, so those two above are actually {mi klama zo'e zo'e zo'e
zo'e} and {mi me lo klama be zo'e bei zo'e bei zo'e bei zo'e be'o zo'e},
respectively.

-- 
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:18 AM, ianek <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:janek37@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">janek37=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
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Also, I still don&#39;t see any difference in meaning between {broda} and<b=
r>
{me lo broda}.<br></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all">Well, obviously, it&=
#39;s the place structure.<br><br>{mi klama} means &quot;I go from somewher=
e to somewhere by some route using some means&quot;/&quot;I am-a-go-er from=
 somewhere to somewhere by some route using some means&quot; (and all the v=
arious different tenses of those).<br>
<br>{mi me lo klama} means &quot;I am amongst-those-that-are-(something tha=
t goes from somewhere to somewhere by some route using some means) in some =
aspect&quot;.<br><br>You have to remember that unfilled places are always i=
mplicitly filled with &quot;zo&#39;e&quot;, as well, so those two above are=
 actually {mi klama zo&#39;e zo&#39;e zo&#39;e zo&#39;e} and {mi me lo klam=
a be zo&#39;e bei zo&#39;e bei zo&#39;e bei zo&#39;e be&#39;o zo&#39;e}, re=
spectively.<br>
<br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo piln=
o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Lu=
ke, I am your father. :D )<br><br>

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