Received: from mail-pb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]:47764) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SbrwF-0002Pf-5u; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 04:28:42 -0700 Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2sf5166994pbb.16 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 04:28:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=nSkDjlAyyrA7x5RWqAw+1+Kb8/U6n1dei6N7bMUxNmQ=; b=ZVz9xuB+Pnwt3spyarwTSyXiGFFTzn1zuWm2bBQQE+PVeXmVGHyZOsZotACb60ujgk Jz0alPCJi9jNmiE1HrdU2I+go3yqtQRElR8agNvfvKYo9vFwGKs18ZRpjqCq0DFJKTL4 3oEotA1/tEtyBVZblsc15FClNTgM5HmLzOEnA= Received: by 10.52.70.97 with SMTP id l1mr859786vdu.15.1338895712761; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 04:28:32 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.71.2 with SMTP id q2ls3297616vdu.7.gmail; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 04:28:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.71.7 with SMTP id q7mr854624vdu.20.1338895712072; Tue, 05 Jun 2012 04:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by e20g2000vbm.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 04:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 04:28:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/536.5 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/19.0.1084.52 Safari/536.5,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <7a5142ca-04bc-44db-8559-d3361c66c826@e20g2000vbm.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: mi do dunda be ti From: ianek To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: janek37@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of janek37@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=janek37@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 1420 You're wrong, jbofi'e doesn't interpret {be} that way. Proof: {mi fe do dunda be ti}. Here, do goes into dunda2, not the x2 of "x1 gives this to x2". mu'o mi'e ianek On 5 Cze, 11:50, tengo wrote: > There are also other ways to confuse people, so your example just adds > to that number. :) For another example, consider heavy use of FA and > SE: > > fi la .man. la .filadelfias. te se ve klama fa la .ostin. > > From a similar discussion at this group I gathered that jbofi'e > interprets {mi do dunda be ti} is correctly. For those who wonder, > here is how it works. > > {dunda} > x1 gives x2 to x3 > > When you attach a sumti to brivla with {be}, it fills one of brivla's > places and deletes it from numbered place structure of selbri. > > {dunda be ti} > x1 gives this to x2 > > Then {mi} and {do} fill the x1 and x2 of the resulting selbri. > > {mi do dunda be ti} = {mi dunda be ti do} > I give this to you. > > Although, my opinion about this interpretation is not backed by > official sources. I may need to read more. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.