Received: from mail-ee0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]:33697) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ScLtP-0001aG-Pj; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:27:48 -0700 Received: by eekb57 with SMTP id b57sf4223034eek.16 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:27:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=b/bVXsLx/ssLlYsz1ixgaQtRqXxC0/iPGRDF1TbFxDQ=; b=zdaos6aMQuUsAO8NZ+yefB/zFQCUGgFybGEXw7HWuyhqMBHREJ/yGLHN5Wh2k/aVAg bo64y7e2iz3J4GZ6k0qFvMceuTXhKMG34+zZmWFq1kOYuXWLTbMgMdKS1ecUAKsoq4nt XLzwk/5ancqovX7kU/GtzHM3V+BR6JS/+9W68= Received: by 10.204.9.211 with SMTP id m19mr1054534bkm.0.1339010855444; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:27:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.129.85 with SMTP id n21ls7159915bks.6.gmail; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.132.81 with SMTP id a17mr4260858bkt.4.1339010853699; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.132.81 with SMTP id a17mr4260856bkt.4.1339010853677; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (mail-lb0-f181.google.com [209.85.217.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ig3si573101bkc.3.2012.06.06.12.27.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.181; Received: by lbbgk8 with SMTP id gk8so5569484lbb.40 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:27:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.41.2 with SMTP id b2mr10846915lbl.58.1339010852963; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.46.36 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:27:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <081fee5e-59b7-4431-8e0f-7324e3188b4f@d17g2000vbv.googlegroups.com> References: <5dce11db-6a89-43ef-93c7-27d1333711eb@googlegroups.com> <4FCF9F47.5090907@plasmatix.com> <081fee5e-59b7-4431-8e0f-7324e3188b4f@d17g2000vbv.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:27:32 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Question on lu... li'u usage From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4efe2a283dc6d804c1d2c29f X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Content-Length: 4504 --e0cb4efe2a283dc6d804c1d2c29f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This is the problem with sei being internal to the lu ... li'u thing. You can't say "I heard him say '"I didn't hurt the baby", he said.' yesterday." Fortunately, I don't think that kind of thing happens much, if at all. On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 1:23 PM, ianek wrote: > On 6 Cze, 20:19, Miles Forster wrote: > > Am 06.06.2012 19:47, schrieb ianek: > > > > > By the way, is there something one can do when the cited words include > > > "sei", to mark that the "sei" is a part of the citation? > > > > How about sei sa'a nai? > > This raises more questions than answers: what if the sei in the > quotation is already followed by {sa'a} or {sa'a nai}? > > > > > -- > > .i da xamgu ganse fi no na'ebo lo risna > > .i lo vajrai cu nonselji'u lo kanla > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --e0cb4efe2a283dc6d804c1d2c29f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is the problem with sei being internal to the lu ... li'u thing. Y= ou can't say "I heard him say '"I didn't hurt the bab= y", he said.' yesterday." Fortunately, I don't think that= kind of thing happens much, if at all.
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 1:23 PM, ianek <janek37= @gmail.com> wrote:
On 6 Cze, 20:19, Miles Forster <m...@plasmatix.com> wrote:
> Am 06.06.2012 19:47, schrieb ianek:
>
> > By the way, is there something one can do when the cited words in= clude
> > "sei", to mark that the "sei" is a part of th= e citation?
>
> How about sei sa'a nai?

This raises more questions than answers: what if the sei in the
quotation is already followed by {sa'a} or {sa'a nai}?

>
> --
> .i da xamgu ganse fi no na'ebo lo risna
> .i lo vajrai cu nonselji'u lo kanla

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